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Old Dec 24, 2006, 04:05 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
KillerArgument
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I'm glad to see you responded, this discussion is less sought after!



Life is not that simple, don't reduce it to those terms or imply that I did. I never said create life, I said create amino acid structures that bond to protein molecules (building blocks of life). And yes this is quite easy to do. However the probability of it naturally occuring is highly unlikely. If I were to run this experiment, it would take millions of years and millions of attempts before you would see life evolve.
So maybe I'll get back to you in one million years and say "HEY I TOLD YOU SO!".


What I'm saying is that, it is scientifically provable when analyzing the atmoic structures of our history and theoretically possible that a primordial ooze could have given rise to our origins.

(CITE IMAX - Physics, Information. Truth or evolution?
BIOCHEMICAL PREDESTINATION - Gary Steinman Dean Kenyan)

--POSTED IN OTHER THREAD BUT RELEVANT--
I mean it really is a big IF when contemplating non-theistic life origins. The idea of chemical evolution is so highly impropable, that at first it is daunting and overwhelming and almost impossible to believe. It's like, if I were to program a computer to randomly generate 1,000,000 pixels of different colours on a screen, eventually it would recreate the Mona Lisa in it's EXACT form. The amount of time this would take however, is vastly mind boggling. This is similar to biochemical predestination in the sense that, how many primordial cess pools had to form on ancient earth before the right conditions environmentally and combinations of DNA programming within amino acids could give rise to protein combinations and cell structure that results in self-replecating life (evolving through natural selection and genetic variations).

On the other side though, If I'm to believe that DNA is the programming of god, did he leave our evolution to chance? What kind of god what want that, and what purpose would it serve? Either way, most theistic followers can't accept that we arose from basic cell structures on early earth, and that we were created in our current form.


There is an intellectual breaking point for everyone, it just depends on how far you are willing to look within the history of our own atomic sub-structures.



I never called you stupid! I commend you for bringing this discussion to the surface, and continuing to respond. I'm merely opposing your viewpoint as I often do to all people, in an attempt to push your logic to it's limits in the hopes that I might discover something in your way of thinking that can change my own :)

I never said I don't believe a god or greater being was or wasn't involved. Simply that it is "it is not scientifically testable, applicable, or explicitly supported by existing data".


Cadre,

Didn't mean to oversimplify or imply--sorry.

If all this evolutional origin theory is "improbable" and "impossible to believe," tomorrow is Christmas, and Christian churches will be open to receive those who wish to praise God for His creation, and for His Son. : )

Hey, I know I'm jumpin' to conclusions, but you can't blame a guy for tryin,' right?

I never know how God might be working in your heart.


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