[Kamehameha34]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Why do you think meat production involves only the point of slaughtering?

I am for the elimination of pain in the slaughtering process, and you are for elimination of the slaughtering process. I'm defending my point, not current conditions.

Kamehameha, I never said nothing was true because Ghandi or MLK said it was. If I had, that would be an appeal to authority which rest on this reasoning:

So your quote by Ghandi is irrelevant.

Glad to see your admission, let's move on.

The operative word here is "value." Now, if in lieu of "value" it read "what he knows to be true and I therefore subsequently believe and concur with because he said it," then you would be right, it would be the fallacy you are screaming. As it is though, "value" and "truth" are not the same therefore you are off mark in your assertion. It appears you are just averse to having quotes of respected persons shown to you which value things different from you. Quotes of famous and respected persons are often proffered in debate which often outline value and belief systems that one putting it forth agrees with. The truth of the argument, or at least mine, does not rest on what Ghandi said. It rests on reason, but I am always open to adding color to my arguments by sprinkling the words of respected persons in them.

Oh, excuse me, I thought you would only post things that are relevant to the fruition of the debate. My mistake. :rolleyes:

I have done no such thing to you. I will equate degenerate thought and degenerate reasoning patterns to degenerate thoughts and reasoning patterns. You should be willing to seperate the personal from the processes of your arguments' prosecutions or defenses.

It's ad hominem. "You share this belief in common with these people, which is wrong in that context." Where your equations break down is the fact that you think humans are equal to animals is subjective.

Have not done so. Show me. I may equate your reasoning to the same reasoning which a racist may you, but targeting your reason is not the same as targeting your person. Like lawyers in a court of law, you need to be able to seperate your reasoning processes from your person. That is why you don`t see lawyers whining to the judge that the other attorney just called me a racist just because they are defending a racist in a trial, perhaps even using racist thought to do so.

You equate 1+1 to x.
Therefore, you equate 2 to x.

Please don`t paraphrase me when alledging serious accusations. Post a quote from me so I can fairly address your accusation.

Just stop jumping to the most radical comparisons, and you should be fine.

I have not called you a "racist" or "stupid meat eater." I have analogised your reasoning with constructs.

You apply "my reasoning" to that of moral degenerates through insubstantial, tangential comparisons.