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Quote by: Kamehameha34 I don't care what anyone "does", eliminating pain from the harvesting process eliminates all objectivity from your argument.

Why do you think meat production involves only the point of slaughtering?

Defend your point with reason; don't fall back on this appeal to authority fallacy.

Kamehameha, I never said nothing was true because Ghandi or MLK said it was. If I had, that would be an appeal to authority which rest on this reasoning:

1. A makes claim B;
2. there is something positive about A,
3. therefore claim B is true.

What I said, quoting myself is:

I will count myself sitting at the same table with Ghandi on that thought of what we value together, while you sit at another:

The operative word here is "value." Now, if in lieu of "value" it read "what he knows to be true and I therefore subsequently believe and concur with because he said it," then you would be right, it would be the fallacy you are screaming. As it is though, "value" and "truth" are not the same therefore you are off mark in your assertion.

It appears you are just averse to having quotes of respected persons shown to you which value things different from you. Quotes of famous and respected persons are often proffered in debate which often outline value and belief systems that one putting it forth agrees with. The truth of the argument, or at least mine, does not rest on what Ghandi said. It rests on reason, but I am always open to adding color to my arguments by sprinkling the words of respected persons in them.

It does nothing for your argument, no matter how much you equate me to a moral degenerate (yet another ad hominem fallacy).

I have done no such thing to you. I will equate degenerate thought and degenerate reasoning patterns to degenerate thoughts and reasoning patterns. You should be willing to seperate the personal from the processes of your arguments' prosecutions or defenses.

You equated me to a racist earlier.

Have not done so. Show me. I may equate your reasoning to the same reasoning which a racist may you, but targeting your reason is not the same as targeting your person. Like lawyers in a court of law, you need to be able to seperate your reasoning processes from your person. That is why you don`t see lawyers whining to the judge that the other attorney just called me a racist just because they are defending a racist in a trial, perhaps even using racist thought to do so.

Preceding that, you called me a "stupid meat eater with no reason", or the like.

Please don`t paraphrase me when alledging serious accusations. Post a quote from me so I can fairly address your accusation.

What if I continuously called you a communist in response to all of your points? It would, like your points, attack the debator and not the arguments, and I could fall back on "Don't take it personally".

I have not called you a "racist" or "stupid meat eater." I have analogised your reasoning with constructs.