[talinh]

Children have the right to say no?

* Did the children have the right to say no when we bring them to school, put them to bed, etc. etc.?
* Have the children the right to say yes also?
* If they have only the right to say no but not yes, that means they have no choice to say otherwise. Is this really a right?

child love is good for this society if given the right to say no to love they must have the right to say yes no matter what the age...

A case of child sex-law abuse?

* Not giving food to a hungry child is child abuse.
* Not giving sex to a sex hungry child should also be child abuse.
* Hence, the current child protection law is another form of child sex abuse.
* The current child pornography law strengthens the abuse further by:
o punishing not only the “feeders”, but also those who pretend to be feeding the child
o postponing the legal age of the child to be fed.

what dose this have to do with child love a lot more then you think.. child love is the people who do not wish to be in the same category as molesters... because their need are not the same... where a molester is out for sex with someone from any age group by force a child lover is not... they are in it for love...
for all you that will use that agents what i am trying to explain Love is a basic dimension of human experience that is variously conveyed as a sense of tender affection, an intense attraction, the foundation of intimacy and good interpersonal chemistry, willing self-sacrifice on behalf of another, and as an ineffable sense of affinity or connection to nature, other living beings, or even that which is unseen. It manifests itself in feelings, emotion, behavior, thoughts, perception and attitude. It influences, underlies and defines major patterns in interpersonal relationships and self-identification.

The diverse range of meanings associated with the English word contrasts with the plurality of Greek words for love, reflecting the depth, versatility, and complexity of the concept. This diversity of meanings is reflected in the many distinct classifications of love including romantic love; sexual desire; platonic love; religious love; familial love; true love; and the more casual application of the term to anything pleasurable, enjoyable, desirable, or preferred, including activities and favorite foods.

further more Pedophilia Definition is as follows The word comes from the Greek paidophilia (παιδοφιλία)—pais (παις, "child") and philia (φιλία, "love, friendship").

but somehow these people have been put in the same class as molesters
the term pedophile is also used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent,[1] as well as those who have sexually abused a child.

yet here are the differences
The term paedophilia erotica was coined in 1886 by the Vienna psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing in his writing Psychopathia Sexualis.[4] He gave the following characteristics:

* the sexual interest is toward children, either prepubescent or at the beginning of puberty
* the sexual interest is the primary one, that is, exclusively or mainly toward children
* the sexual interest remains over time
Strictly speaking, this definition would include many adolescents and prepubescents, for whom such an interest might be normal; thus, some experts add the criterion that the interest be toward children at least five years younger than the subject. See entry for sexologist Dr. John Money.

Krafft-Ebing also categorized child molesters into three types:

* a.) pedophile,
* b.) surrogate (that is, the child is regarded as a surrogate object for a preferred, non-available adult object)
* c.) sadistic.

so the fact that the child love would stay with the girl over the years suggest love because even if their is a sexual need... it is not bound just to sex
not only that but what about older child lovers what did they do and how do we get rid of them

No market, no pedophiles?

* No porno market, no rapists? No violent movies, no violence……?
* What are the causes for pedophilia?
* Would the pedophiles become more dangerous without pornographic outlet?
* Pedophiles are punished for what they read or for they are interested in, not for what they have done!
* Discrimination based on sexual inclination?
* Famous pedophiles:
o Lewis Carroll : “Alice in Wonderland”
o James Barrie: “Peter Pan"

i would like to end this with something from china
Some writing from a Chinese female:

"Love is not the same thing as sexual coercion."

"I must oppose age-consent laws as I oppose any form of tyranny which works on the assumption that liberty is unnecessary. I must agree that I am opposed to any form of legal age, the assumption is unnecessary tyranny, freedom works."

"It may be true, Jai children are always a mystery in people's minds. It may be true that physical affection and warmth will forever be lost in the abyss of ignorance. It may be true, the intimacy and warmth is always lost in the abyss of ignorance. It may be true that justice will fall victim to merciless brutality. affection and kindness that have no place in society. that considering everything of value. liberty can not be found -- but it is the heart of the Humanitarians and the lovers of youth and compassion to oppose these possibilities with every ounce of strength that can be mustered. It may be true, justice will suffer ruthless, affection and kindness, not in the community, value freedom everywhere but can not find the heart -- love and compassion, humanitarian and youth mustered forces do our best against such a possibility."

Nice to see a similar point of view, written through the perspective of a person living in a very different country, speaking a very different language.

A source I found said Jai means "heart" in Thai.