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Quote by: JohnMK  I doubt we'll ever know at all, if my materialistic view of nature is correct. The probability is that you simply won't know either at the moment of death and certainly you won't know after you're dead, because it would be impossible for a dead mind to know anything. Death is not sleep or meditation, it is the abolition of existence for you, cognitive and otherwise. |
Before I can accept your opinon I need to know a couple of things.
1 Do you agree with the scientific theory about wormholes as discribed on the link page provided in my O.P?
2 Have you read any data about what is called the "near death experience"?
During a near death experience the the person is dead for a short time according to normal medical testing for those facts. No pulse or breathing taking place. Although flesh and bone and even brain tissue can remain useable for a short time after the persons dies (no heartbeat or breathing or pulse). That is why organ transplants are possible. But if the medial attendant acts fast enough they can get the heart to beat again and the lungs to operate again - in time where the heart and lungs can still operate in a "useable body of parts". In less you have another meaning for death other then the one commonly used by hospital staff the near death experience is in fact a death experience. And people who experience such a event awaken from unconsious state of being dead and report that they moved through a tunnel of darkness towards the light at the end of that tunnel and emerged in another place. Which is the same theory reported by science about a star that is terminated and falls into a wormhole of gravity within it's self. That is to say - same story line but one about humans and one about stars when they "die".
A large number of people have reported to have that same sort of vision when they recover at a hospital after being dead but restored to life before they reached the point of no return.
I did not say anything at all about meditation or dream states, and I know of no reports that people dream about such a happening or that anyone ever visioned such a happening while meditating. No collected evidence that dreamers or mediators had such a vision to support you claim. But a large number of reports from people who experienced a state of temporary death have been collected which report such a wormhole like experience.
see link pages ...
Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife Near-death experience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What I have attempted to suggest is that we could apply the theory about wormholes (see first link in O.P.) to the theory about near death experiences as discovered through paranormal science. I am not interested (by the way) in advoating any of the religious opinons some of the NDE pages might employ.
Not asking for faithful believers here. But examine the known evidence on the NDE and see if the theory about wormholes as a scientific theory would not also apply to humans as it would to a star that is terminating. Of course you cannot know if you were never dead but others were dead and do claim to know what they saw during that experience.
However if you hold fast to a that materialistic viewpoint then I would agree that his theory would not fit (perhaps) into that frame.