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Old Nov 29, 2006, 04:12 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
Zhavric
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You personally have not followed every known relationship in mathematics and the sciences to come to your present understandings. Within your lifetime you do not have that kind of time or resources.
I'm not sure why theists keep submitting this manner of defense.

Do you need degrees in physics & biology to know that a healthy adult elephant cannot occupy a 1 foot cubic box and remain healthy? No. Do you need to examine every letter of the alphabet to know X is not the same letter as Y? No.

Thus, your line of reasoning fails. With logic, we don't need to know everything to know specific things.

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So, you have the faith that others have used diligent effort to describe a phenomena. You take those results and push forward with the development of your own concepts.
Perhaps you do, but I highly doubt that.

What I do (and what I suspect you do as well...) is make logical deductions based on parameters given to you. Do you have "faith" the elephant won't fit comfortably in the shoebox or do you know it to be true based on what you logically understand about elephants and geometry?

You seem to be under the misconception that knowing something logically is the same as having faith in something. This is not the case. Faith is belief WITHOUT evidence and thus useless in discussing the natural world which needs to be explored using evidence and logic.

There's also a world of difference between declaring a plausible claim "likely" based on evidence & deductive reasoning and wishing an absurdity to be true.
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