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Old May 6, 2004, 03:44 pm   #51 (permalink) (top)
Kyran
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Pat, thanks for clarifying "He said, 'Don't be afraid. Tell us what happened. We are on your side,' " Mr. Abd remembered. " `Tell us everything they have done.' "

Yeah, it takes a real man to tell an enemy unit "We are on YOUR side." And LOOK, isn't it sweet? That unit that didn't want to share his intelligence is READY to talk about what those BAD BAD soldiers did to him. Is everyone happy now that they have supported the enemy? Can we have a National Holiday named after this? How about "National Backstabbing Traitor Day?"

I LOVE the way your truthout.org writer sends the message that "if they can get away with it - so will our homeland security forces, whether the FBI, a new version of Britain's MI5, or even our local police". This is no more than absolute speculation. You think if Bush and the military themselves prosecute torture offenders, that somehow civilian police will get away with it? How does one reach this conclusion?

Doesn't anyone think it's strange that: Our soldiers can kill an enemy on the field unless they capture him.

While this may serve as an incentive to encourage surrender, the enemy we are currently fighting is not surrendering. They have all the time in the world to recruit more cannon fodder because of the lax reaction-fighting we are doing.

Now besides the British urinating on Iraqi prisoners, take a look at U.S. soldier Frederick's account. He talks about breaking tables and fearing them up in the CBS article. Nobody can scare the enemy anymore into talking now that they know public opinion will protect them from our own military. They are going to abuse your kindness; a kindness that they never earned.

War is not about "fairness" or "holding the moral ground." It is about using the most force to win. I say this as someone who hates war and hates being forced to use force. But the facts are clear:

1. We are fighting a quagmire, and each side is losing incrementally day-by-day in a "fair fight."
2. Our strategy is "let the Arabs take care of it themselves."
3. Our tactics are "don't get any information if it harms our image."
4. Our interrogation methods are now futile.
5. Our enemy is advantaged by Fog of War; we don't know where their leader is.

What's the goal people?
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