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Old Nov 29, 2006, 02:53 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
gallo
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Wow!!!! You believe in Jesus, but don't believe in the bible or what it teaches?
I'm not sure to whom you are responding. In my view, it would depend on what you mean by "believe in the bible." Of course, what it teaches is a bit contradictory - kill/love and the like. As for Jesus, there actually isn't any historical support that he existed.
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Where is this rationalization coming from?
From rational thinking.
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If you actually READ the bible (Exodus and Deut. in particular) you'd see there are consequences for not obeying the 10C's.
Right. Kill them! And this is an example of the loving god of christianity.
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The one that sticks out in my mind is the one where the guy was picking up sticks around his camp on the sabbath. He was taken outside of the camp and stoned to death.
An example of the violence that results from following the teaching of the Bible. So I am forbidden to cook my meal on the sabbath? Yet another example of the loving god of the christians.
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I'm not great on remembering verse and chapter numbers so you will have to look it up yourself.
I'm sure you're not. It is enough to condemn others on little understood verses from scripture.
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There is another where if your children disrepect you, you can stone them too. Stoning was big back in the day.
Right. Kill them. We can just have more. Our loving god demands it. Of course, you're going to have a tough time explaining to the DA.
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Christians get around this cruel and unusual punishment because Jesus payed the price for any sin you commit. Where before YOU payed the price (by death), Jesus now pays the price and offers forgiveness.
So you are saying that the old testament and its laws are meaningless and need not be given any heed because of Jesus? They are something that christians try to "get around."
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Christians also aren't required to follow laws that aren't moral in nature. i.e. the 10 C's are moral laws, but the consequences for breaking these moral laws falls under Civil Laws and there for are only meant for the hebrews of that time. I'm not sure why Jews don't follow some of these civil laws now a days, because I know there are some who work o the sabbath and some that commit adultry, but they aren't stoned to death.
You're serious? Have you ever heard of laws against murder? So murder is OK with you because it is biblical?
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You are correct that the 10C's are pretty much "How to be nice" for dummies but the basic priciples were around a lot longer than the 10C's have been around.
Not even that. My bet is that you don't even know the 10 Commandments as the Bible states them. At least I hope you don't seethe a kid in its mother's milk.

Cite the book, chapter and verse of the 10 commandments. Be aware that the Bible specifically mentions the 10 commandments, and if your cite doesn't include that, then you aren't citing the 10 commandments.


As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;...
--From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli passed unanimously by the Senate 1797
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