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Quote by: Matts  No, I am completely in earnest when I say that in order for expressions like "gay culture" and "homosexuality" to have any useful meaning, they cannot be applied interchangeably. The former expression refers to certain social forms, the latter to the thing that motivated the establishment of these forms. The so-called gay culture presumes the existence of homosexuality, but there is no reason to think that homosexuality as such would not exist without gay culture. Homosexual sex was practiced before anyone ever heard of gay culture, and there are certainly homosexual relationships now that are perfectly self-sufficient without gay culture. Surely, you do not suggest that an intimate relation between two men could not exist without their involvement in gay culture? |
Ah so, deska........but nonetheless, I don't think I ever used the words "gay culture" in my first post, but rather spoke of their lifestyle choices, in an attempt at a euphemism for anal sex, which is the only practice relating to gays that poses significant danger of infection.
So your charge that I was attempting to "frame" any context for homosexuality was entirely misguided and specious.
But perhaps you mistook me for another.
As you were.