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Old Nov 27, 2006, 04:06 pm   #3362 (permalink) (top)
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Surely, you jest.
No, I am completely in earnest when I say that in order for expressions like "gay culture" and "homosexuality" to have any useful meaning, they cannot be applied interchangeably. The former expression refers to certain social forms, the latter to the thing that motivated the establishment of these forms. The so-called gay culture presumes the existence of homosexuality, but there is no reason to think that homosexuality as such would not exist without gay culture. Homosexual sex was practiced before anyone ever heard of gay culture, and there are certainly homosexual relationships now that are perfectly self-sufficient without gay culture. Surely, you do not suggest that an intimate relation between two men could not exist without their involvement in gay culture?


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