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Old Oct 31, 2006, 02:18 pm   #94 (permalink) (top)
brien
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PH I don't disagree that 2nd hand smoke is unhealthy. I am asking for the names of people who have died under the following claim.

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Passive smoking kills about 53,000 nonsmokers per year, making it the 3rd leading cause of preventable death in the U.S
I see these numbers thrown around recklessly but who are these people? Give me some names.

Particularly you PH , one who doesn't trust the government when it comes to many things, particularly the 9/11 disaster, all of a sudden trusts the government with numbers like these?

At least with the 911 victims, you can get the names of the people who were killed. Where are the names boss? Anyone can make these claims. Prove it with names of the deceased and I will believe this claim.

Here are the leading causes of death in the US;

Link:N C H S - FASTATS - Leading Causes of Death

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Deaths-Leading Causes

(Data are for U.S. for year indicated)

Number of deaths for leading causes of death

Heart disease: 654,092

Cancer: 550,270

Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,147

Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 123,884

Accidents (unintentional injuries): 108,694

Diabetes: 72,815

Alzheimer's disease: 65,829

Influenza/Pneumonia: 61,472

Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 42,762

Septicemia: 33,464

Source: Deaths: Preliminary Data for 2004, tables 7
Link:http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005110.html

Link:U.S. Death Statistics

Here is some smoking related stats:

Link:ACS :: Cigarette Smoking

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Health Effects of Smoking

Each year, a staggering 440,000 people die in the US from tobacco use. Nearly 1 of every 5 deaths is related to smoking. Cigarettes kill more Americans than alcohol, car accidents, suicide, AIDS, homicide, and illegal drugs combined.

Cigarette smoking accounts for at least 30% of all cancer deaths. It is a major cause of cancers of the lung, larynx (voice box), oral cavity, pharynx (throat), and esophagus, and is a contributing cause in the development of cancers of the bladder, pancreas, liver, uterine cervix, kidney, stomach, colon and rectum, and some leukemias.

About 87% of lung cancer deaths are caused by smoking. Lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer death among both men and women, and is one of the most difficult cancers to treat. It is very hard to detect when it is in the earliest, most treatable stage. Fortunately, lung cancer is largely a preventable disease. Groups that promote nonsmoking as part of their religion, such as Mormons and Seventh-day Adventists, have much lower rates of lung cancer and other smoking-related cancers.

But cancers account for only about half of the deaths related to smoking. Smoking is also a major cause of heart disease, bronchitis, emphysema, and stroke, and contributes to the severity of pneumonia. Tobacco has a damaging affect on women's reproductive health and is associated with increased risk of miscarriage, early delivery (prematurity), stillbirth, infant death, and is a cause of low birth weight in infants. Furthermore, the smoke from cigarettes has a harmful health effect on those around the smoke. (Refer to the American Cancer Society documents "Secondhand Smoke" and "Women and Smoking.")

Hmmmm I wonder where is death caused by 2nd hand smoke? In the above reference?

Once again, I don't disagree that 2nd hand smoke is unhealthy, but I wouold like to see a list of real people who have succmbed to death due to 2nd hand smoke. I would then take their claims of death more seriously.


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