[Pooeypants]

Quote by: xyzer Pooey.. I'm not sure you comprehend my position. I have repeatedly agreed that we are in a warming trend. I have repeatedly mentioned that I believe there are climate cycles.

So do the proponents of Anthropogenic Global warming, so why bring it up unless you're suggesting they think otherwise?

Quote by: xyzer I have repeatedly suggested that there is no certainty to the current orthodoxy that human caused emissions are a major factor in the current warming cycle.

Which is why it's still being researched. What is unanimous amongst all respectable scientific organisations is that we have an affect.

Quote by: xyzer The studies themselves are replete with assumptions and computer iterations that IMNSHO are flawed.We can't even predict current weather conditions a week or so from now with absolute certainty..how in the hell can we do so with climate one hundred years hence??

This is a complete misnomer, weather prediction and climate prediction are not exactly the same thing. Considering how you claim to have a degree, I would've thought you'd known this and that, once more you're diverting attention. If you really don't know, then read here.

Quote by: xyzer I have pounded home(with examples) the scare tactics that the Press including opportunists like Gore(You will note his documentary made millions which you deny he might have shared in?) promote are speculative.

I don't know how much Al Gore earnt, but if you insist that he has then you must support that statement with the relevant material. Again, no one is using material from the press to support their position.

Quote by: xyzer And yet you post this? You suggest that this human induced model is valid because we can't explain the naturally caused pehnomena as having a certain affect. Is that logical? We can't prove or demonstrate something so therefor we concoct a model with certain assumptions built in,that has to be correct? What we substitute for a model we don't agree with has to be correct because we feel the original model is incorrect? I'm not diverting, I'm questioning the logic...I refer you to a recent primer on logic..."Logic Made Easy" by Deborah J. Bennett 2004...W.W. Norton company, London

If you have a model which can comprehensively explain the climate change we have been experiencing, then please present it. Better still, send it to one of the respectable scientific organisations researching this phenomena. Or you can continue making anecdotes.