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Old Oct 25, 2006, 01:40 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
zauhiyq
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Zynner,

Christians are not required to follow most of the "OT laws" handed down to Moses during the first covenant after they left Egypt. They are only required to follow the moral laws (10 commandments and some others). The reason for this is that once Jesus came, Christians entered into a new covenant where the punishment of all sins were no longer required to offer a blood sacrifice (no more stoning or animal sacrifices). This was now done by Jesus when he was crucified. The civil laws of the OT(e.g. Deut 22:28-29) were handed down to gods "Choosen People", the Israelites, and were not meant for all people for all times. Chrisitains are only required to follow the teachings of Christ after the second covenant and moral laws.

In short, Christians do not follow the civil or ritutalistic laws of the OT, only the moral laws and the teachings of christ.

This is the way apologists have explained it to me. I'm an atheist and I have a hard time buying it. To me, it seems that depending on the christian you talk to, certain things are metaphorical, certain things are literal and it would seem they pick and choose which depending on the argument being discussed.

My suggestion to you is to pick apart the prophecies in another thread if you want to pick apart the bible.

:)

How about you don't know the bible yourself. Most people don't know it that well at all.

Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, not change it. Christains don't follow jesus because he followed the law. And he didn't die for no ones sin.

Is there not still sin in the world? In fact, since jesus followed the laws, it has it that he didn't die for anyone's sin. Deuteronomy 24:16

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. Amaziah even followed this law 2 Chronicles 25:4
But he slew not their children, but did as it is written in the law in the book of Moses, where the lord commanded, saying, the fathers shall not die for the children, neither shall the children die for te fathers, but every man shall die for his own sin.

When you know the bible well, you'll learn that no preacher has the heart to go against traditional teachings even when it's wrong in effort to explain to you that Jesus did not die for your sins. Ezekiel gives a serious breakdown in this in chapter 18
You'll see a strong take onto the commandments and you should notice verse 20.... the soul that sinneth, it shall die. The soul shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteous of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

It explains how nothing can destroy a soul like sin and how nothing can save a soul but good deeds through the commandments, the law.

And...it was teachings of paul that left these laws, period.
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