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Old Oct 22, 2006, 07:20 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
gallo
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Democracy is the result of philosophy, not political science.
Really? That's an unusual assertion.
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The bible did not result in a concept of human rights, as people believed everything was up to God, and God put people in the positions of life they had, and all the lowest were to do, was to obey those God put over them.
Some pretty deep thoughts there, Athena. But you do have trouble with the meaning and application of certain terms, ans zynner has aptly pointed out.
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The concept of human rights came from philosophers such as Locke. The concept of liberty was shocking to those who believed we are born in sin. Christian Europe did not expect the democracy, with liberty, of the US to succeed.
True. For example, some of the better known phrases from the Declaration of Independence come from Locke and other philosophers of the Enlightenment. For example, that "We hold these truths to be self evident" is certainly not Biblical or Christian. Truth was not from scripture but was innate in every human. And rather than someone who was "by the Grace of God, King," supported by a privileged nobility, there was the idea that all men are created equal. Certainly not Biblical or Christian. Further, all men are endowed by their Creator (a clear reference to deism rather than the Biblical God) with unalienable rights. Previously, King or Church could take life and liberty away from anyone at will. And, of course, happiness was not the object expressed by the Bible or traditional Christianity. The words, "life, liberty, and..." are taken directly from Locke.
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Newton was important to democracy, because his science validate the universe is ordered. He was Christian, however, when validation of an order universe is mixed with Cicero, we get a stronger argument for democracy.
Newton wasn't actually a christian. His views were more Christological. His religion could more properly be described as Arianism, in that he denied the trinity and the divinity of Jesus. At best, Newton was a Unitarian.
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Look up Naturalism,...
But you seem to confuse naturalism as philosophy with naturalism as a method. The later is science, the former is not.

By the way, the United States is not now and has never been a democracy. Our government was envisioned and established as a democratic republic.


As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;...
--From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli passed unanimously by the Senate 1797
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