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Old Oct 22, 2006, 12:52 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
Jack
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I perceive language as nothing more than socially agreed-upon verbal symbols we use to represent concepts beyond, "Gork, look...elephant", a concept that can be expressed physically by grabbing Gork's shirt and pointing at the elephant. I suspect the human tendency to "talk with our hands" is a holdover from a time when our language was inadequate to express our thoughts.
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every time we use language there is always some sort of strange personal, judging aspect involved.
Of course we do. I use language to express my thoughts. If I had no thoughts I'd have nothing to communicate. I also cannot know what another is thinking. So I can only express my thoughts, even if they weren't mine originally. Whatever input I take in becomes a part of me. Some of it I reject as incompatible with what else I know.
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Even dividing our forms up and splitting them into sort of mirrors into or away from each other, psychologically speaking, creates a sort of strange reflective ego. Even the greatest mystics(to use those who most often try to shift and marginalize their forms) still have a sense of "I" around them- why is this? In my opinion this is because often, when you remove the forms, instead of outright elimination, a sort of reflective version of the remaining mental form fills up the emptiness or takes it's place
You lost me here.
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how do you not have form/ego, and yet use language at the same time?
When would I not have both form and ego? I think I missed something.


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