[madprophet]

Quote by: rmnunez It sure seems that way, haven't encountered a critical lefty who doesn't oppose everything and anything related to Bush (either one).

I'm pro-gun. Hey, it's something.

Quote by: rmnunez The same people who now criticise Bush for intervention in Iraq criticised Clinton for going in to Yugoslavia.

Ahem.

“Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years.” –Joe Scarborough (R-FL) “Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?” –Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99 “[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) “American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.” –Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) “If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.” –Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush “I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.” –Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

And I know I've heard quiet a few "critical lefties" explain there support for the Nato bombings, because it's something I mildly disagree with a lot of them about. Kos, I think, supported the Nato campaign.

Quote by: rmnunez But before you figure maybe its interventionism which the critical lefty opposes, note they also damn the US for not intervening to help the Afghans in their struggle against the Soviets, the Rwandans against the Burundi and Timorese against the Indonesians.

We didn't simply stand by and do nothing while Indonesia slaughtered a quarter of the population of East Timor, we publicly and shamelessly supported it. We were enablers. We wouldn't have had to do anything, not a damn thing, to help the East Timorese except stop supplying weapons and training to Indonesia and apply a little diplomatic pressure. Which is what we did, eventually, and hey, look, East Timor is free and soveriegn! And why did we support Indonesia's thuggery for nearly twenty-five years? Could it have something to do with control of off-shore oil fields, perhaps? Or is that just a coincidence that keeps popping up?

The problem we "critical lefties" have is that the United States intervenes in the wrong places, for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way. And we fail to intervene, and even enable crimes, for the same reasons. We support Saddam Hussein through his worst crimes, and then use the very crimes we tolerated in an ally to justify attacks on an enemy. We support Indonesia when it invades East Timor, but villify Iraq when it invades Kuwait. It smacks of Hypocrisy and Imperialism.