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Quote by: iahag  Hmm, what precisely have we measured about god? Ill let you answer that.
But onto the next fallacious statement. You say god has been weighed. The definition of weight: 'the magnitude of the force exerted on a mass by gravity'. In your statement, your implying that god is a mass of some sorts and that he experiences gravity also.
I see now... So what is a spirit? Why is this 'hovering' over gods apparent creation significant? Why does he not 'hover' over land? Does he not 'hover' on over gaseous stars or planets with no liquid? 'Hover over' implies 'above something with respect to the direction of gravity, yet exempt from the force of gravity itself. Heh, you managed to contradict yourself in 2 paragraphs.
I assume by 'huge' you mean 'relatively large within the three spacial dimensions' (relative to what is up to you). And so by this statement, your implying that - god and heaven both exist within the 3 spacial dimensions -. Thus, your implying that god and heaven exists in that which we can see, interpret ... etc. Yet this is in contradiction to the modern theists view that god is in no way associated with our reality other than 'a mysterious guiding force'. I believe this is 2nd contradiction. (Hell, if the word 'other than' wasnt so damn specific the statement would contradict itself.) 
Perhaps its graphs like these.
Perhaps its statements like these. Graphic image warning http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/pict..._jews_cart.jpg
images like these
And stats like these that makes it hard to imagine the almighty fuzzbot.
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Wow, I think you are Sooo away out of your league here with me. First it would be a good start to know your bible if you want to know what I am talking about.
God has been refered to as a man in the bible. Man can be weighed. There are many more human attributes attributed to God and so forth, God can be weighed. That's 1 (Gods has been measured in the same way - That's 2)
By your statement I guess you're saying God can't experience gravity. In the bible (and I don't know where else you can find the topic of God spelled, "God", so much) God is on earth, he eats, he smells, he sits, he falls of his chariot, he gets angry, his made up mind to kill is changed by Moses. I'd say, based on the way people love to glorify God, being subjected to gravity is the least of his problems if he is supposed to be nothing like man. -That's 3
Then we come to another part where you can't comprehend. God hovering over the sea or waters. Who saw it? If I was to see God's spirit or what ever form he wanted to be in, hover over anything, be it the stars or a million universes, I would know he isn't larger than his creation. That's the point dude. That's 4
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Quote by: iahag Thus, your implying that god and heaven exists in that which we can see, interpret ... etc. Yet this is in contradiction to the modern theists view that god is in no way associated with our reality other than 'a mysterious guiding force'. I believe this is 2nd contradiction. |
Are you atheists? It only means that you don't believe in Greek Gods = Theos. A - theos. If you depend on scholars for king James and others who still so called translate the word Elohim into a German word like God then you are still lost. You only think you know what you are talking about when you say either of, "There is a God," or "There is not a God." You haven't a clue as to what to do to get pass such influences. And you are going to tell me about a contradiction you see based on what you alone have been duped about. How can anyone have a belief concerning, "God?" There are references. Things you should know! Especially if you're going to have a sincere attempt to debate about it. Where can I find reference that God is in no way associated with our reality. Notice in my question I did not say, "Elohim." Who are all these people that don't believe in God? lol.
Or is it that they don't believe in the God spoken about in the bible?
Pretty stupid to think the God spoken of in the bible is a mysterious guiding force. God in the bible sounds pretty ignorant. And if you've experienced a miracle why would you attribute it to a name associated with the bible like God? That's a question for you, so called atheist!!