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Quote by: G. Adams  SHW is right in saying that there are no voluntary animal tests. A more appropriate response to him would be "So? And?", not twisting around a ludicrous suggestion that animals may or may not volunteer, we just don't know. |
Exactly and well said.
I have to say, eventhough G. Adams seems against me on most issues of animal rights, he has the maturity in debate to not support a ludicrous statement merely because it was said by someone on his side of the debate. To be able to call someone out from your own side for stating a ludicrous assertion is the sign of a mature debator and one who honors the rules and rigors of what is accepted and proper debate at higher levels.
Likewise, if I or SpideySpirit were to ever step outside the bounds of proper debate or state absurd statements for supporting our arguments, I would expect each of us to point out to the other that that such a statement is ludicrous and holds no water within the normal views of society or acadamia. I am not just talking about things we and others do not agree with each other on -- but just wacky way out there out of this world assertions -- like "we don`t know if animals willingly submit for testing."
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Humans do engage in a massive amount of later stage medical testing, not because it's good or bad for society, but because they are paid well. If you up the money on offer, there would be those that would go in for earlier stage testing. You would/should also need less test subjects, because the results would be much more relevant to their intended application.
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Right on the mark on all counts!