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Agur · Oct 2, 2006, 05:17 pm

You need the help of God, then, don't you? In addition to prayers I think there are ways, even for those who do not believe, to help themselves a bit too..

Here's what I think:

Self discipline is learned throughout socialisation where parents/ other authorities are the teachers. Even adults can acquired self discipline through practice if fuelled by adequate motivation, especially if self discipline is not the goal in itself but rather a means to a higher end.

You can come to act in new ways e.g. if you discover a new goal you want to reach: Maybe you now do things you earlier thought you should have done because the motivation for some reason is stronger now than before?

Unwanted desires need to be repressed through self discipline, though they, to some extent at least, can be diminished if ignored.

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Oct 2, 2006, 05:17 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Agur Eternal Location: Norway Posts: 70	You need the help of God, then, don't you? In addition to prayers I think there are ways, even for those who do not believe, to help themselves a bit too.. Here's what I think: Self discipline is learned throughout socialisation where parents/ other authorities are the teachers. Even adults can acquired self discipline through practice if fuelled by adequate motivation, especially if self discipline is not the goal in itself but rather a means to a higher end. You can come to act in new ways e.g. if you discover a new goal you want to reach: Maybe you now do things you earlier thought you should have done because the motivation for some reason is stronger now than before? Unwanted desires need to be repressed through self discipline, though they, to some extent at least, can be diminished if ignored. . "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph.2:8).