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Originally posted by commonsense,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (commonsense,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>My referring to Mohammedans as "towelheads and rag heads" is a deliberate distinction [/b]

As opposed to what? People who wear loincloths?

Originally posted by commonsense,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (commonsense,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>we are in a Culture Warwith these people as the aggressor, at least the violent aggressors, even if you want to consider the encroachment of American movies, etc from their view as aggression of an indirect violent type. [/b]

They use American values because they won't admit the only reason they hate us is we aren't followers of Islam.

Originally posted by commonsense, I stress "objective thinkers" because the charge of racism is a perverted term, misused and intentionally cultivated in the counter-culture of our academic institutions which is based on a perverse destructive ideology bent on destroying the philosophy and resultant culture that characterizes the United States, as well as what gave them the very freedom to oppose and endeavor to destroy it. Those who indiscriminately use the accusation of racism wittingly or not, are in fact aiding our own domestic fanatics who have more in common with the terrorists as far as wishing the fall of the U.S. than do the rest of our countrymen who, whether they can articulate it or not, understand the distinction and the threat to our culture that the fanatical Mohammedans' violence presents.

Are you an attorney by any chance? Your post reads like the small print on a contract. You know, the part the layman is not supposed to understand.

Originally posted by commonsense, It is those Americans, who understand this a Culture War not a race war, who also understand the crucial nature of preserving our uniquely American Culture, which does, to its great credit, include historically greatest levels of tolerance, BUT IT CANNOT CONTINUE WHEN THE VERY CULTURE THAT BREEDS THAT TOLERENCE IS ITSELF THREATENED BY IT

It's a religious war with the added power play that large sums of money help proliferate. It is only a race war, if one assumes all Muslims are Arabs. Muslims are of many nationalities and races. Same as the rest of us.

Originally posted by commonsense, The American people are not being represented by their government, So something by the people itself must be done, and it isn't vote for Bush or Kerry.

The American people ARE their government. We elect representatives and should logically expect them to conduct themselves according to that covenant. But politics has trumped decent human behavior. As long as the people accept the governance foisted upon them by elitists, there will be continuing discord.

Originally posted by commonsense, The American people do share a common culture of freedom regardless of other ultimately superficial "differences" which in fact comprise the "spice of life" we all appreciate in what the other brings to the American experience.

American people used to share a common culture of freedom. It's the US Constitution which provided it. The Constitution has been under assault since the mid 1800s. It is no longer the bearer of freedom that it was meant to be when it was written. And in the years after WWII, most immigrants, who previously added that spice of life, are no longer interested in assimilating. All they want are to get what they can, whatever they have to do to get it. That might mean they work harder but that doesn't mean they have any fidelity to our culture and they translate freedom as meaning they have the right to get what they want anyway they can. Especially if they can get laws changed to grant additional rights to certain segments of the population.

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THAT FREEDOM IS THREATENED BY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION BY FANATICALS FROM WITHIN!

It is equally threatened by fanaticals in government and academia as well, but the violence must be stopped first in order to address the second.

No liberal objected to ridiculous taxpayer-funded ads that proclaim
"buy drugs and fund a terrorist" (to images of the Twin Towers struck by a winged ball of flame)
---- many drug sellers are "nice people" with families, too, simply engaging in free enterprise and providing a service much in demand, the use of which does not necessarily harm the purchaser nor his family---[/quote] Really "nice" people aren't substance abusers. Nor do they seek to make others substance abusers. If the service in demand is detrimental to society's health and well being, then their is a flaw in the people who demand such services.

And that ad was a truism. Buying narcotics that are grown and processed in Afghanistan, helps support terrorism. Many of us boycotted French products because of their insipid attitude towards the US. I don't drink French wine, but I would have given it up to thwart the French. I do boycott to protest actions by governments, my own and others.


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I am not a racist, I am a humanitarian who understands history and human nature and wants to preclude human suffering....And preserve the American Ideals of individual freedom, the last hope for the real ascendancy of mankind.[/quote] Sounds alturistic. Few people are that good. And you're 144 years too late to preserve individual freedoms. Besides, mankind has its limits and will not survive indefinitely, no matter what people do or don't do.