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Quote by: G. Adams Actually, I'm going to be lazy. I can spend the next 30-40 minutes arguing my points, ... |
That is what a debate site is for, isn`t it? -- to argue your points or to offer rebuttals. You don`t have to do a marathon 30-40 min session. Choose one or two points and get to the others when you have time. I would prefer you choose direct questions I address to you.
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and it's not going to convince you, but then I don't need to convince you. As your trying to break the norms however, you do.
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G. Adams, debate is not merely for those who are participants, and in most cases participants are not swayed by their opponants' arguments during the debate. Debates are usually for the benefit of the on-lookers who are not decided on the issue and for the participants to become familiar with new arguments and techniques for how they should put forth their arguments or how to rebutt oponents' arguments. It is almost a kind of ongoing form of education that can evolve differently for each person. I value that. Don`t you?
From the very beginning I have had no illusion of changing the opinions of the participants' views. In fact, I would guess there are few controversial issues for debate on this whole forum where major participants just all of a sudden changed their minds because they were "convinced", are there? In that case I and you are in good company -- or at least the majority when it comes to debates.
I do imagine, though, that new ideas from debates get lodged in particpants' minds, as well as the onlookers', and after days, weeks, or months, people begin to change, no matter how slow or imperceptible it is at first. I often think about the things said during debates later in my free time.
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So why don't you explain why I, or any meat lover, should convert?
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I have been doing just that! I have recently joined this forum. I still have few posts on the topic. Why don`t you just go back 2 or 3 pages to where I came in and read my posts, rather than asking me to repeat myself, in which case a certain other person will ding me for it. I don`t mind reiterating my view, but since it is only a few pages back, I really think it is a little early to do it now.