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Quote by: strongheartswin 
Well, how do you define "unnecessary"? If they are experiencing "unecessary" pain then why would you continue eating flesh? Factory farms, store owners, and even consumers could argue that whatever suffering they are experiencing is necessary to keep the meat per gram at whichever cheap price it is at the moment so that as many people as possible could afford it. In fact, people could argue that more pain is necessary for them if we can bring the prices down even more by forcing them into less space for movement -- and therefore more people could be fed with cheaper prices.
Some will say that slaughter lines sped up could bring prices down even more,even though it would mean more animals being still concious past the knocker stage. But why should that matter if prices drop because of it and more people benefit from their increased pain?
So, what is "unecessary" pain?
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I'm not arguing what is and isn't unnecessary pain, merely saying that while most people don't want bad conditions for animals, their concern doesn't go much farther than that. If you want to improve standards of living for animals, that should be a fact that you deal with.
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Quote by: strongheartswin Vegetarianism on moral and ethical grounds is not about "animal welfare" -- it is premised on Animal Rights. |
You care about animal welfare if you care about animal rights. If people are going to continue to raise animals for meat, don't you want the animals that are used to be treated better?
If no one was eating meat, most of these livestock animals wouldn't even exist.