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Old Aug 23, 2006, 01:06 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready
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Quote:
Zeppelin said: (from quote of Russel)
If someone has free will, then at any point in time they may either choose to do a certain thing or choose not to do it.
I say:
I agree.

Quote:
Zeppelin said: (from quote of Russel)
An omniscient God knows everything that will happen in the future, including all of the choices he will make at any future point in time.
I say:
What is a "god"? Can a god be a star as in a "star" in outer space?
What is it to "know" something? Is to know, to (be), or to enunciate on command the future?

If a star can be a god, and to (be) is to know, then in fact a star could be an omniscient god, since a star creates matter, and we, and EVERYTHING we know in the physical world are ALL forms of matter and know that all matter was at one time created by stars.

Quote:
Zeppelin said: (from quote of Russel)
By the definitions of "knowledge" and "choice", if one knows for certain what choice one will make in the future, one will not be able to make the opposite choice.
I say:
That is because they made the choice upon learning the knowledge.

Quote:
Zeppelin said: (from quote of Russel)
Omniscience and free will are logically contradictory. Either nobody has free will, or nobody is omniscient.
I say:
I contend that NOBODY is omniscient that lives in the physical world, unless as I described above.


That is what I think.


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