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Fonceai said:
I want to add that they are also responsible for their inactions.
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If that is true, than is it not reliant on ignorance or fraud of information that can be attained?
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U.S. politicians have lost focus because they have taken away responsibility FROM the individuals.
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Which I alledge is by design, since about 1850.
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U.S. citizens have lost focus because they became complacent and relinquished their responsibility beyond the point of no return.
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I alledge this is due to fraud, information fraud to be exact.
This fraud is perpetrated by these things, in order: (but to sum up, this fraud was perpetrated by a group of governments who worked together through coercion and extortion to assemble an establishment organization that is fully compartmentalized.)
First, by private schools such as privately funded universities as in the first ones to appear in the States, who were designed to compete against each other in the realm of science, and mans relation to the physical world. (Religion, Constitutional Interpretation, Rights of Man, the Role of Man in Society.) They were set up to teach opposing ideologies, by people who clung to those ideologies they supported, instead of working within a common framework of interpretation.
Secondly, by public schools once they evolved, by increasingly removing or simply not teaching vital information to citizenship, liberty and the birth of our nation.
Then we have the media, that has grown beyond our wildest expectations. Truth in advertising was a thing that came and went, as did media value for vital information on the nation. Propaganda was recognized as a national value in WWII, and has been used against the populace by government since. (Operation Mockingbird, Operation Northwoods and many other examples.)
That covers the entire spectrum of LEARNING and EDUCATION until the internet came out and started destroying the lies through free speech among nations peoples.
Also, the rights of incorporation changes, that allowed most of the above mentioned monopolization of media to occur. Corporate lawyers (acting as both attorneys and judges) subverted our Bill of Rights in the late 1800's by establishing the doctrine of "corporate personhood" -- the claim that corporations were intended to fully enjoy the legal status and protections created for human beings. This removed control of corporate charter from the community, to the government as well as changing the ability to do business for national, and multinational corporations.
Now, I fully understand, and agree that inaction is the fault of those who don't act. The true question in this case however is was their motive, means and intent by government to fraud the people of information? I say yes, based on several sources, means and described methods as well as clearly stated intent by many of the major players who made it happen.
Here are a couple quotes from those who knew then, what we are learning today....
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”
-Joseph Stalin
“One of the greatest pains to human nature is the pain of a new idea”
-Walter Bagehot (1826-1877)
(Bagehot was an English journalist and economist, and first formulated a distinct theory of central banking. He was an early editor of The Economist. He was a member of the establishment, and he explains quite accurately how the establishment experiences new ideas.)
“Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”
-Richard Salant, former President of CBS News
“The best time to buy is when blood is running in the streets.”
-Baron Nathan Mayer de Rothschild
“The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class. The great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages, will bear its burden without complaint.”
-Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863-Jun-25, in a letter to fellow members of the establishment
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
-Henry Ford
“...all of us here at the policy-making level have had experience with directives... from the White House.... The substance of them is that we shall use our grant-making power so as to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.”
-H. Rowan Gaither, Jr., President, Ford Foundation, to Norman Dodd, Congressional Reese Commission, 1954
“What luck for the rulers that men do not think.”
-Adolf Hitler
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
-David Rockefeller, Bilderberg 1991 (Baden-Baden Germany)
“People shouldn't expect the mass media to do investigative stories. That job belongs to the 'fringe' media.”
-Ted Koppel
“This proposal will never prevent criminals from possessing firearms and we never said it would.”
-Daryl Smeaton, Attorney General's department, Director of Law Enforcement Co-ordination, on the new Australian gun bans, in The Weekend Australian, 20-21 September 1997, page 6
“It is true that despite an increase in gun ownership in Australia over the past 15 years, there has been a decline in the murder and suicide rates.”
-Melanie Granger, for the Hon. Daryl Williams, Attorney General of Australia and Minister for Justice, from a Letter to Ross Wilmoth dated 27/8/97
“Tighter gun control laws were not framed with the specific expectation that gun related deaths would decline.”
-Anne Standford, press secretary for Police Minister Bill McGrath, in The Geelong Advertiser, 11/9/97
“No one has the right to destroy another person's belief by demanding empirical evidence.”
-Ann Landers, former director of Handgun Control, Inc.
“The Democrats ran away from gun safety in the 2002 elections, and look where it got them. Whoever is advising them on gun control should be shot.”
-Blaine Rummel, spokesman for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (in "Democrats shunning gun control", 2003-May-31, Washington Times)
“Whatever right the Second Amendment protects is not as important as it was 200 years ago....[The government should] deconstitutionalize the subject by repealing the embarrassing Amendment.”
-George Will, 1991
“I don't care if you want to hunt. I don't care if you think it's your right. I say: `Sorry, it's 1999. We have had enough as a nation. You are not allowed to own a gun, and if you do own a gun I think you should go to prison.'”
-Television talk-show host Rosie O'Donnell
And now, a few quotes from those who spoke of logic I respect....
“Government is not suggestion nor persuasion, it is force...and force is violence. ...When you advocate any government action, you first must believe that violence is the best answer to the question at hand.”
-Laws of the Jungle, by Allen Thornton
“Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”
-George Washington, presidential farewell address
“Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have.”
-Barry Goldwater
“We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”
-Ayn Rand, The Nature of Government
I make no allegations of which I feel I can't fully backup.
If you think my allegations of intentions are wrong, question them. If you think I can't provide a fact, source or date, ask me to. If you doubt my logic, question it.
I will happily be of any service in those pursuits that I can.