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Old Jul 25, 2006, 08:34 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
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People may want to move to the US to be in a liberal democracy (I use the word liberal in it's academic sense, not how most liberals see liberalism), a country more free than their own. Well, you'll certainly cut down the numbers seeking such freedom coming to the US with your reforms.

Rights are "self-evident", not dependant upon obediance to coercian. And you are expecting them to pay full taxes without full liberty.

You didn't specify that earlier. So, what if I can't afford to set up my own business alone, and want to set it up with a full citizen? Then they will be investing in both their own and a citizens business? Or what if I need additional money, and my family can supply it? Am I not allowed to borrow money from my own family to set up a business? That would mean that a none citizen is investing in a business in the US, remember.

Of course the test isn't all that difficult now to pass, but what is to say it won't be made harder by those who want to increase disenfranchisement? Since citizenship is dependant upon a test, you are putting vast power in the hands of those who set the test. Or, like most centralisers of power such as yourself, are you assuming you or people with your values will always be in power to prevent such abuse?

It's not the choice of the daughters to be disenfranchised from the system. They can do little about it, and will find it hard to catch up if they have not been taught reading and writing. While it is of course difficult for those who cannot read+write to vote, they should have all the rights of a citizen.

For the position "no-one is able to work for or against none-citizens" within the political process, it would require a body to defend that specific article, to maintain the balance. That would require a lot of power to be vested in such a body, one that can strike down laws that it feels is upsetting the status quo. What if such a body has poor leadership, and the rights of none citizens are stripped? By creating a two-tier caste system, you open up new areas for corruption and oppression.

I think it would be good enough for government at every level to return to it's original, constitutionally defined roles.


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