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Old May 22, 2006, 09:37 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
twoanickel
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Quote by: PatrickHenry
As much as I personally find your proposal to my taste, twoanickel, I think that any action along those lines would certainly be a trigger for a 21st Century Civil War.

Many in the USA self-identify strongly as "Americans" and would take up arms to defend Washington against a reversal of her sovreignty. This includes a large contingent (likely a majority) of the US military. They are well armed and trained and have facilities waiting for "detainees." I don't think I would want to tangle with US soldiers quelling a so-called "revolution" unless there was great public opinion on the side of devolution from federalism.

You are correct about Patrick Henry and George Mason also opposed the constitution as noted in these objections: http://look.net/gunstonhall/documents/objections.html

Here's another of my favorites from George Mason: Why do the Feds get all my extra money every year? Because I have a gun to my head and I fear the consequences of refusing to pay the protection money.
I agree that it would require a big information campaign to gain the public's support, but I also believe that a large number of Americans are getting fed up. The thing that is on the side of terminating the federal government is that it is primarily because of the federal government that we are no longer real Americans. Right now, there are a large number of people inside the beltway who consider themselves to be world citizens rather tan Americans, and there are people now sitting on the supreme court who have contempt for the constitution. Names? How about Stephan Breyer and the other woman on the court? Sandra Oconner was another one, but she is gone now. The federal government does not influence the nation toward Americanism, but contemptuously abandons principles which are historically American.
You opened with the suggestion of a civil war in the offing. I suggest that if we are going to fight we do so to rid ourselves of the beast of the beltway. But again, I think we still might have recourse to lawful means even for the rejection of federalism.

The consideration of the outcome of our military being divided into the forces of fifty different states would appeal greatly to the American people now, I believe;l and I believe also that there are many in the armed forces who would think it would be a great benefit to alter the military from a federal force to the might of fifty different states ready to take joint action IF the states were ever TRULY threatened. The federal government has abused our miltary unnecessarily.

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