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Quote by: gallo Let me explain further. A scientist makes an observation that he/she doesn't understood. So more observations are gathered if possible. That is the data - the facts of science. Based on experience, existing scientific theories, and pure speculation, the scientist then proposes an explanation for the observations. That proposed explanation is called an hypothesis. (This is where both creationism and ID creationism stop.) Then, based on the explanation, the scientist makes a prediction of an observation that has not been observed that would be a necessary consequence of the hypothesis. An experiment is then designed that has the capability to falsify the prediction. If the hypothesis passes the test, and if the test is strong enough, then it is called a scientific theory.

Ok, I can accept that. My use of the term "theory" was obviously in error, in what started out (for me, at least) as an informal discussion. I have since checked out the scientific definition of the term and I am open minded enough to admit my mistake. Based on this, ID is a hypothesis, not a theory.

Quote by: gallo Really! Have the honesty and integrity to learn the basics of what you claim to oppose. If you don't understand science, how can you oppose it?

Ok, I'll keep that in mind. What was it that I claimed to oppose though?

Quote by: gallo It doesn't "require" a link to religious beliefs because it is religion.

Religion is generally defined as a belief in and reverence for some sort of supernatural creator. Isn't it possible that the universe could have been created without any supernatural power having been exercised?

Quote by: gallo I'm sorry you need to pretend that your weak faith is verified by science. That is not true of most Christians.

You're making an unfounded assertion here. You know nothing about either my "weak faith" or whether I am Christian or not.

Quote by: gallo How many times do we have to explain that to ignorant fundies?

Are you implying that I am a "fundie"?? Another unfounded assertion?

Quote by: gallo Wouldn't it be good it you learned the basics of what you oppose? How do you know that you oppose it?

Actually, I'm not quite sure what it is that you think I am opposing.

Quote by: gallo What is quite certain is that it wasn't 6,000 years ago by magic. So why don't you present your proof that the earth was created by whatever mythology you believe to be true?

Magic? Mythology? 6000 years?? Proof?? I don't think I've made any such claims.

BTW, your sarcasm and snideness contributes nothing to the discussion and is uncharacteristic of your apparent fondness for scientific methods.