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Quote by: Samildanach Collective ownership implies everyone owns it as far as I am concerned. when it comes down to who gets to use the item if a few people want to at the same time.... then I guess it comes down to who has the bigger gun and the faster trigger finger at which point when the other owners are dead it becomes a non-collective ownership item. |
Is this not the same situation that would happen if
no one owned the item in question?
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Quote by: tman_ndsu08 In the ideal pure collective ownership world, there would be no private property.
Everyone would simply use the nearest whatever it is that they need to us.
For example, if I needed to use a car to get somewhere, then that car over there is as good as any other, right?
There would be no locks on anything, obviously. You'd simply use the nearest one and when you were done with it, someone else would come along as use it.
You can see how this would only work in a perfectly standardized world.
In our current world there is such a thing as a "better" car, etc. |
I think you forgot something -- that for the above to work, economic scarcity must not exist. Otherwise, well said.
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Quote by: PatrickHenry There IS a commons. Who owns the atmosphere? The waters of the ocean? The space outside the earth's atmosphere? |
The atmosphere has not been perceived to be an economically scarce good thus far. Nor have the waters of the ocean or the space outside the atmosphere. Thus, I would take your interrogative argument to mean that the only time a "commons" can exist is when economic scarcity does not.
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Quote by: PatrickHenry On the other hand, what incentive is there to create objects that will be used by others without benefit to the creator? Even the internet was created for users who have juice... |
None, that I know of. That's the problem with socialism, communism, etc. in my opinion: it's nothing more than an attempt to get other people to do what they don't want to do. It's an implementation of pride (the cardinal sin) on a large scale -- "What I want is more important than what you want".
- Rob