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Old Apr 22, 2006, 09:55 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
lsbskins1
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the only real difference in our positions is that i don't want illegal immigrants to be rewarded - and i don't want miscreant employers rewarded with illegal immigrants that they have and will continue to exploit to the detriment of american citizens.

i don't have a problem if the enter the country through legal means, but i have no interest in extending any services or amnesty towards ILLEGAL immigrants. and, i have absolutely no xenophobic or racist motives behind my opposition to ILLEGAL immigrants. you can label me a bigot if you like (which would be quite the ignorant move), but if you immigrate into this country outside of the legal process (like being smuggled in on a truck), then you most certainly ARE an illegal immigrant despite this proletariat rhetoric you're preaching.

you seem more concerned about these mexicans than americans - who were working these jobs before illegals came in and drove wages down through the floor. shit, let's just let them all come in unhindered and give them (re: miscreant employers AND illegal immigrants) whatever they want. american citizens don't deserve to have their own interests supported by the politicians they misguidedly elect.
I've been away for a while. Look, my position is this. Everyone in Mexico is just as human as I am. People in Panama and any other nation to our south are just as human as I am. Call me an asshole if you wish. Call me stupid. People hate us because we hipcritically claim to support human rights and democratic ideals when what we really mean is this... "All Americans need access to basic human dignity and if there are enough table scraps left over to make sure a few other people do alright, first dibs go to those who look most like our european ancestors. Everyone else can go fuck themselves. If they don't like it, too bad. When their country becomes the sole superpower, they can get theirs." Well, thats the approach they are taking, and we call them assholes. They figure if we don't really mean those idealistic things we preach, why should they give a shit about following our rules of exclusion. Would you feel any different if it was your family that was starving? If you call me unpatriotic for feeling that way, that is no different than me believing bigotry plays a part in your attitude. We could call each other whatever names we wanted. The truth is the truth. Americans are arrogant and believe they have rights based on the Constitution and no one else has any claim to those rights. The plain fact is that those rights were claimed from the beginning as inherent to all men. The Constitution enshrines them as the law of our land, but does not limit others claims to those same basic rights. If you think only Americans have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, you are a bigot and an arrogant ass. My calling you or not calling you such does not alter the basic facts at all.


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