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Quote by: The Dunedan We believe that Rights are universal ( no good if you believe in slavery! ), including the Right to be armed ( DEFINITELY no good if you believe in slavery! )
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Not in my experience. In capitlism you buy your rights. You have the right to obey narrow interests or likely end up starving in the streets. Then, if you ar a worker and reject the low standard of living demanded of you, you'll face the freedom of privte or even government police. That's how it happened in the United States and how it will likely keep happening. Capitalism exists to protect a small minority who benefit at the expense of others--so the use of force to create poverty is practical in such a belief system.
The fact that you believe in people owning weapons doesn't alter the other points. |
Perhaps you can tell us more about your experience, then? Furthermore, can you elucidate on the rights which, according to you, can only be bought under capitalism? (Do not say "all of them". I'm asking for a complete answer here. If you say "all of them" anyways, I will warn you.) Finally, I'd like to know just how likely it is for one to "end up starving in the streets" in the United States at the present time. Thanks in advance.
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Quote by: The Dunedan ; that Individuals have the Right to resist with lethal violence
all attempts to coerce them into bondage ( how does this translate
to supporting Slavery, again? )
, and most if not all of us view our entire
political exercise as an attempt to stave off Slavery. | ,
Good luck with that ambition when capitalism relies on class division, intervention, ignorance, chains of command, the creation of "risk," fear and intimidation, oneupmanship, low wages, threats and insults, inequality of bargaining power, etc. |
You did not answer his question. Please do so or admit that you cannot. Thanks in advance.
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Quote by: The Dunedan How, then, do you ( or the author you quote ) reach
and support the conclusion that Libertarians desire to own Slaves?
Does a Slavemaster arm his Slaves, or allow them to
arm themselves?
No. | I suspect some poor people might be hired to keep the rabble in line.
Why do you think people around the world speak of ways to fight global capitalists?
Even if guns are banned, it's not as though rebels cannot find weapons. |
Do you have proof for such a suspicion? Are "global capitalists" really such, when
managed-trade organizations such as the WTO, IMF, and World Bank exist?
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Quote by: The Dunedan And don't spout some rhetoric about how Capitalism Equals Slavery.*
Capitalism is the antithesis of Slavery, because Capitalism is based*
upon mutually beneficial voluntary exchange.* | No, capitalism is based upon creating authoritarian relationships, centralized authority and profit. Profit is, by definition, not mutually beneficial. It is exploitative so as to gain the upper hand. |
Interesting. Can you share with us your proof of how the definition of "profit" implies (explicitly or implicitly) the lack of mutual benefit? Furthermore, can you explain to us exactly what you mean by "the upper hand"? Finally, is it your contention that wealth is a zero-sum game? Thanks in advance.
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Quote by: The Dunedan Corporate Mercantilism may be said to equal Slavery, but Mecantilism
and Capitalism are antithetical to one another, with Mercantilism being
more closely akin to Fascism. | It seems to me that strong autocratic control is the natural result of capitalism. |
More support (i.e. proof) is required here if we are to take your position in any way seriously. Thanks in advance.
- Rob