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Technosoul said:
economics must follow some sort of mathamatical law.
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I say:
Not to be insultive or demeaning in any way, but may I ask how old you are? I ask this because I want to know what level of government and social studies education level you are at so to better approach the issue and make sense. (I am not trying to pro-rate your understanding here, just get a better angle of explanation to be clearer and easier to understand without being verbose.)
Economics simply is another evolution of technology of trade for survival. Coins replaced goods, Promissory notes have replaced coins, and fiat replaced promissory notes. Even if no money existed, trade would occur. Promissory notes and Fiat are different forms of "coupons" that were created to take the place of transporting goods to market for trade, and "fostering" a sense of financial stability, often mistaken for SECURITY.
Trade can be very confusing, or very simple, depending on the views you are taught. I think the Capitalist system best represents modern societies reality, which is that populations are too large to work from a collectivist system, due to the lack of strength in ANY bond that could be formed past the basic fact we are all human. Capitalist economics is dependent on classes in society, and nature has shown that all societies, form the lowest to the highest form of life as we know it, has classes. Classes are essential to a successful society, but there are good and bad types of classes. To base classes on labor, is the natural way to form classes in society, since labor is the key to survival for all living things. Labor is used to provide survival, in all forms of life whether it be hunting or gathering, labor is involved.
In a collective system, the individual is non-existent in all senses of property, much like a family that has no luxury items. The collective toil to continue survival by labor being donated to the collectives necessities, and no more. A very simple system, that works as long as the common ties are strong enough to whether the storms of human nature, such as jealousy, greed, temptation, lust, anger, indifference, hypocrisy and can instill honor, trust, virtue and respect and survival above all. This system is BASED on feelings, therefore STRONG ties are ESSENTIAL for its success and "forced labor" for those unwilling or unable to labor for themselves. This is why mans natural instinct is the collective, because the collective is an essential stage of growth (family) and of human evolution from a basic needs human, to a more refined and capable human through education and technology(natural progression).
In a Capitalist system, the system operates on the "supply and demand" principle of a free market. This is a system that is basic in root logic, hence its success when employed correctly. The concept works from the basic premise that if there is a need, the individuals that make up the market, will fill the need once the need becomes great enough to allow room for a profit to be made for the individual. The system hinges on the individuals, that make up any collective. The only way it seems it can work as an effective collective, is to limit the ties that bind that collective to the bare minimum, which allows the freedom of the individuals the greatest amount of creativity, modes of wealth creation, and furthering of education and technology. The individual has historically pioneered almost all great things we know today that make even the most crude elements of our existence more tolerable, and liveable. That alone should be a testament to the value of free minded individuals who have the ability to pursue what THEY deem of THEIR intrest. It also shows that once ties of "kinship" expand in society, to a level where common threads are far and few between, the root core to an effective collective is to loosen the ties that bind to a point where the "common threads" are the root of the individual. This is the system that our forefathers understood in theory, but had trouble explaining without offending the "beliefs" of the time. For example, the idea that all rights come from a "creator". This was added to pacify those who were of such strong religious belief, that they could not accept this "newly conceived" level of freedom to committ sin. (according to THEIR individual beliefs). The way they handled slavery during the creation of this nation, was also directly influenced by the "common perception" of mankind of the times. Blacks were not seen as equal humans to whites, which many of the forefathers agreed was inhumane and naturally wrong. However, the greater good of all mankind in their eyes was the most amount of freedom that could reasonable be accepted, to protect themselves from the other "hostile collectives" out there. They sought a place of individual freedom, and unfortunately, at the time, blacks weren't in the eyes of the American, or most of the Worlds eyes, equal.
It was however, our Bill of Rights, and the persistence of those within the society for public discourse and education, that blacks were equal, as were women and they proved so in the eyes of the public both in numbers of feet on the ground in protest, as well as in "courts" with intelligent debate and solid casemaking. The freedom of all to be equal in the eyes of the law was a natural progression of our society. The current trends toward corporatism and financial ruin however, are not natural effects, they are results of subversive tactics being employed by those in government, against the writings of the Constitution, to implement Socialist economics theories into law, in a free market capitalist system. They did this through the combination of judicial activism and power consolidation by bi-partisan takeover of the major parties with sympathizers, and a bi-partisan monopoly of all elected positions and appoinment powers, using them to subvert the perception of law, and introducing new theories to constitutional interpretation, going against the basic design of our entire system of law.
Our system of law hinges on the individual, being able to understand and identify clear lines of his abilities and freedoms while being legally compliant. Our system was subverted almost fully by the year 1850. After 156 years of subersion and laws built upon false ideals, and bad logic, we are at a critical point as a society, where we will either right ourselves peacefully, or violently, or perish due to ignorance.
It is the peoples choice, and as of now they are being led astray by the partisan dynamic our first President George Washington so clearly spoke of and warned against.