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Old Apr 3, 2006, 01:10 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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The point is, you have to seperate humanitarian, and economic issues.

That is politics.

Economics is a law, like math.

Humanitiarianism is based on feelings, compassion, necessity and kindness. NOT a law, like math.

The struggle is to find harmony between the two, and Capitalism and Socialism are two different methods with two different approaches.

Socialism fails, because it goes against the laws of nature and the nature of individuals.

Capitalism is failing, only due to the INTRODUCTION of socialist principle into capitalist economics, which is overburdening the system, and causing it to break at the seams. This is due to people being duped into thinking that the state or fed knows better how to spend your money than you do, and the false proposed "benevolence" of a safety net, that disregarded the math required to justify it.

Human issues, and economic issues must be kept seperate. Why?

Because, we as individuals are very different. Survival is dependent on ability in nature, therefore it is natural that any successful form or marriage between economics and humanitarian issues must also be dependent on ability. That ability is citizen acceptance, and the limitations of laws as per our WRITTEN and ADOPTED contract of laws, we call the Constitution.

If you want to ignore law, that is fine, and your right. It is also your right to accept the consequences for breaking those laws, and bringing such a lacking argument to arm your peers to judge for or against your choices in your decisions once justice is to be served.
Okay, good point - economics must follow some sort of mathamatical law, here is some math for you to concider.

In a capitalistic society you must add up how large the population is (number of people who should be employed) and then add up the number of jobs open, which must be provided for by that capitalist system. Capitalism will fail the population if everyone cannot be hired to take part in that system. How can we insure this math is workable?

Also the population must buy enough stuff or services from the business that make up the capitalistic system otherwise they cannot create new jobs by expanding their production. More math. Unemployed people cannot buy very much stuff so that takes us back to the first math problem and its correct answer. (math is about finding the right answer for a problem).

Needless to say outsourcing jobs, imports, and any technology that might replace humans in the workplace, are also factors in that can effect the mathamatical outcome of a capitalistic system - relative to the population within this country. Such can minus jobs just like taxes cane minus profits made.

Nature provides the birds with enough bugs to eat. So should not our economic system do likewise relative to providing enough jobs to eliminate hunger - etc.?

What is the basic plan to insure we can avoid another great depression like we had back in the 1930s? And so that we do not need tax funded safty nets "just in case" enough jobs are not provided for the population by our industry?

I could go into other aspects of your last message but I wish to see your reaction to this message before making additional comments.
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