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Quote by: grandpa You categorize them as "Illegal" people.
Yes, they are. That's why they joined together against a perceived threat. They realize it's more difficult for the INS to target people who have some group solidarity.
No, acceptance promotes acceptance. Dismantling their own cultural identity with roots in language is not accepting who they are. That is accepting who rich, powerful, English speaking Americans want them to be. They want Mexicans to understand the orders being barked at them. I personally am not offended if I hear someone speaking Spanish in America, even if that's the only language they speak. It's a very minor problem and life goes on.
Yeah, freedom and individualism to own slaves, commit genocide, launch foreign invasions, exploit people for maximum profit, hinder free speech and freedom from and of religion. And how about the freedom to mandate signing with the selective service, mandate currency, property taxes and freedom to live under an overall climate of fear, dread and dispassionate panic?
Those are freedoms Americans historically have enjoyed.
I believe xenophobia exists largely because of the "illegal alien" status.
It's mere existence signifies a fear of outsiders coming in.
No, people can be inspected when they enter or leave an airplane or an arbitrary border. But that by no means necessitates granting that person an "illegal" status.
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Gramps: Your anti American rants expose your anti american agenda. You are the kind of person that will find 5 ways to NOT make something happen. Postive people find 5 ways to MAKE something happen.
I never catagorized them as illegal people. YOU did. I wrote they were in this country illegally.
No one ever said America was perfect. However, your whole anti American argument blows up in your face when we see more than 11 milllion people FIGHTING to STAY in the America you are so quick to denigrate. The illegal immigrants ACTIONS defy and prove your rhetoric WRONG. If this country is so bad, as you define it, why are they fighting to come and stay here? Their actions prove your rhetoric WRONG. No one is forcing them to come here. It is that simple. They come here through illegal means and come here VOLUNTARILY. The old axiom "actions speak louder than words" is relevant here.
I don't care one iota if people speak Spanish. I speak that language. The point is they should speak ENGLISH as well. It is NOT about them speaking Spanish, it is about them speaking ENGLISH. A English requirement will help them assimilate and function in the AMERICAN culture easier and the end result will be benefical for them You don't seem to get this point. Fine, so be it.
No one is asking them to dismantle their culture. Immigrants who have come here LEGALLY in the past centuries didn't dismantle their cultures. The Hasidic Jews of NYC have not dismantled their culture yet they speak and understand both Yiddish and English. They function in American society, are accepted in American society, and still retain their beautiful culture. You have to ask yourself why they are successful and the illegals aren't. Comapre the Hasidics to the illegal Mexican immigrant and you will understand the situation. The answers are obvious to logical and reasonable people. So don't give me that line of bullshit that Americans wish to deny the Latins, or any other ethnic group, their language or culture. This is pure rhetoric and is a LIE.
And finally, when this country was founded in the 18th century, none of which you have cited about it was true, except slavery, an institution that was acccepted practice around the entire world. America had the courage to dissovle the institution well before many other countries did so in the 19th Century. So to raise this red herring is irrelevant to the argument at hand.
And finally, if you can find me a better and more progressive place to live than the one you portray, I would be more than happy to recommend the illegals go there to live and work. PROBLEM SOLVED. Somehow, I don't think they will listen to that line of bullshit.
So why don't you go out, rent a hall, and advertise what you have said in your post about illegals in America. Tell them about the America you have posted here. Then come back and tell us how many peole showed up, and how many people actually followed your advice that can be concluded from your rhetoric. I can't wait to see your results.
Tell them exactly what you wrote here about the US. These are your words:
Yeah, freedom and individualism to own slaves, commit genocide, launch foreign invasions, exploit people for maximum profit, hinder free speech and freedom from and of religion. And how about the freedom to mandate signing with the selective service, mandate currency, property taxes and freedom to live under an overall climate of fear, dread and dispassionate panic?
Those are freedoms Americans historically have enjoyed
Let's see how many people will take your rhetoric to heart. I can't wait.