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Quote by: syracusa Well...I wasn't going to bring here any specific baby-related stuff because this is not the focus of volconvo.
My outrage (and I tend to get like that quite a bit) had to do with the enormous amount of censoring, mouth-plastering, consensus-forcing women's forums in this country. I don't know what you are talking about when you say that American women are opinionated...the ones I have seen, not just locally, but on boards all over the country are nothing close to opinionated. There is a general drive to only talk about extremely safe, non-controversial topics and a level of unimaginable sensitivity to ANY (and I repeat ANY) issue that goes beyond "how wonderful our babies are".
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Ah, another American woman bashing thread. Hell, I'm up for it.
It is my opinion ( based only on my own experiences, and those told to me in confidence ) that the vast majority of American women ( in the age group we are discussing ) all share a select few opinions about most subjects.
I believe the phenomenon responsible for this is the places that women like to look for information. Many solicit advice from womens magazines, others from talk shows, others have those same stories retold to them through friends in whom they were seeking advice, others appeal to their mothers only to get the same source for the information yet again. Ultimately, most of the information they are disseminating comes from people whom they don't know, and therefore is probably not applicable to their situation.
It probably also leads to the broad generalizations like even I tend to make when discussion this subject.
I guess what I'm saying is that women tend to let other people form the opinion, they just want to select out the bits that they think fit their individual situation, and try to apply it to their lives.
That is why men in the US all have jokes ready about "how their old lady"...
uses sex as a weapon
want them to participate a test ( out of a womens magazine ) to "rate their relationship"
expects men to pick up the subtlest clues, and then blame the men because they didn't actually want to "articulate their position". They then turn the whole thing around, and then claim the "men don't want to talk" routine.
seek advice from strangers who can't offer any constructive advice
all want the same things, at the same time, for the same reason, to the same ends
boyfriends/friends all have to pass the group popularity contest
throw old, irrelevant stuff up in their faces in the middle of an arguement to attempt to keep them off balance, or make them loose their cool, and thus the ability to reason properly, to gain unfair advantage, or illicit a violent response which can then be turned around on them through guilt
Women around here are very predictable in many ways. In other words, they seem to be easy to herd into large masses of conformists who are all seeking the same answer.