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Old Mar 21, 2006, 08:28 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
SteveA
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BS!...Blind people are still as conscious, but Mentally handicapped people are not even close to as conscious as you or I....They still have conscioiusness yes, but it's severely diminished, more comparable to a dog or other animal. Same with babies, they have a lower level of consciousness compared to adults because there brain has not yet developed fully. I mean, do you remember ever being consciously aware as a baby? Of course not because your level of consciousness was much lower. Consciousness and brain damage are directly related, which is why severely brain damaged people such as Terri Schiavo HAVE NO CONCIOUSNESS AT ALL. Blindness is often not the result of brain damage, which is why blind people are still fully conscious. And if it is the result of brain damage it is small and specific. Consciousness is holistic, but if you destroy 40% of the brain as you say I can guarantee that person will have a severely reduced level of consciousness. Your spewing complete falsehoods.
There are two views - the view from outside and the view from inside. The view from outside would see the person as being mentally handicapped, but from inside, my assumptions are that the person would still feel conscious and though they might know their thinking faculties aren't 100% of what they were, this would simply be an impression but not consciously recognized as being any less conscious than before.

Look at it this way. People already differ mentally, yet I'm certain noone feels any less conscious because of it. The only yardstick you have to measure consciousness is yourself, so it doesn't the size, everything you experience is 100% consciousness.

From the outside we recognize if someone experiences brain damage, that they can't function as well as before but they aren't less conscious from their perspective. They might feel disoriented or groggy etc. but that's still an experience that fills up the entirety of their consciousness.

I do agree that people can be unconscious though but that's more of a state change. You're either there, or you're not - you had an experience or you didn't.


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