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Quote by: another day BS!...Blind people are still as conscious, but Mentally handicapped people are not even close to as conscious as you or I....They still have conscioiusness yes, but it's severely diminished, more comparable to a dog or other animal. Same with babies, they have a lower level of consciousness compared to adults because there brain has not yet developed fully. I mean, do you remember ever being consciously aware as a baby? Of course not because your level of consciousness was much lower. Consciousness and brain damage are directly related, which is why severely brain damaged people such as Terri Schiavo HAVE NO CONCIOUSNESS AT ALL. Blindness is often not the result of brain damage, which is why blind people are still fully conscious. And if it is the result of brain damage it is small and specific. Consciousness is holistic, but if you destroy 40% of the brain as you say I can guarantee that person will have a severely reduced level of consciousness. Your spewing complete falsehoods. |
do they hear the same things we do? do they have thought processes? do they have their own opinions? do they feel emotions? by your own opinion, a person with autism who is excelling in all his classes (some of which are AP courses) is not as conscious as a dog. the result of your beliefs is a widespread discrimination against special needs students, who, given an individualized teaching method, can sometimes outdo the most intelligent people in their grade. one of my friend's dad suffered sever brain damage when he cracked his head open in a pool and chlorine water washed his brain. that was before she was born. he is now back in the work force, repairing cars and building plane, car, and semi engines. according to his doctor's report, he should have died ten years ago. now his new doctor says that he will be a valuable asset to the community. his brain was washed in the same exact way that Terri's was. I can look up several more stories of people who are brain-damaged and AS CONSCIOUS as you and I. your assumption is a lie created to make yourself feel superior to them. I am ADHD. does that mean that I am less conscious than you? I have friends that are deaf from a problem with the auditory section of their brain. are they less conscious than you? I have friends that are autistic that can solve math problems it takes the professor ten minutes to solve in a few seconds. are they less conscious than yourself oh grand king of the world? :rolleyes: hell, no we aren't.
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Exactly. Consciousness and thinking/wondering are the result of EVOLUTION, exactly as you say. They were developed to further the human race. Don't you see how everything makes complete sense? God has no place in any of this. We are simply animals who have evolved complex minds to further our race. Some animals evolve complex defense systems, some evolve complex wing structures etc. It's all evolution and adaption. And I say this because I know what you are leading to, your trying to assert that consciousness is the soul independant of the physical brain - complete crap.
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ok, we know what you say is true. now, since you claim it is science, PROVE IT. prove that consciousness came out of brute matter.