[SteveA]

Nono, if you disagree with Tiny on something or you feel he's not saying something clearly, why don't you offer him some help instead of simply saying he's not making sense.

I think his comments are correct that these riots don't differ much from the protests unions for public agencies hold everytime they have some sweet deal removed. The sad part is that in France the indoctrination into this mindset has been accomplished on so many people at young age.

I read some quotes that they believe this will lead to greater unemployment by the younger generation, whereas that's simply propoganda. If anything, employers would prefer to hire younger age groups now, so you'd expect it to be the people 25+ rioting that they don't have the same competitive advantage that the youth (and many foreigners) have. Not only that but realistically, keeping the law in place just allows for apathy and poor work ethics to set in. This law, in itself, doesn't help the economy there because, like Tiny said, it's more of a welfare system for jobs and it doesn't create more job opportunities but simply makes it so that once someone gets lucky enough to get into a job, the government applies pressure to keep that person there, no matter whether they continue to deserve it and despite others who might need work and be able/willing to do a better job. Besides, employers can easily claim a grievance against the government for this law because they're being unnecessarily limited in the natural ability they'd otherwise have to spend their resources as they wanted.

If someone wants cushy employment agreements that make it difficult for an employer to later terminate the relationship, they should be willing to expect it up front in the employement agreement and be willing to pay the additional costs these incur as well. Using "daddy"/government to give you a nice job is a cop out, so your teasing Tiny over "daddy's money" seems hypocritical to me. Actually, most the Chinese people I've met are hard working, emphasize education, and are family oriented as well as they help each other. If someones father is able to do this well, more power to them, I figure (at a minimum it keeps people out of the welfare lines).