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Quote by: SaintLucifer I ask of you oh my supreme intellectual superior, where do all documented facts derive from? The answer is as simple as your mundane pitiful little mind could possibly conceive.

Sooooo, which is it? Either I am the superior intellectual or the bearer of the mundane, pitiful mind........are these not mutually exclusive for the most part?

PARTICIPANTS. Those who were engaged in any particular historical undertaking. Did you not read the portion where my relatives were in fact participants? Yours were back in the USA gleaning their 'facts' from daily newspapers, facts which found their way across the sea from Britain where a war was actually being fought.

I can concieve of two possible motivations for your making such a claim about something you could not possibly know, ie, where my relatives were during WWII:
1. You're fishing, hoping I will counter your obviously outrageous claim with something of equal or greater bulls**t quotient, that you might catch me in an overt fraud.
2. You are accustomed to pushing people's buttons with lies, that you might cause them to blow up at you and get themselves banned for using vulgar means to describe your lineage or character.

Either way, ring up a "no sale on" yer Barbie Cosmetic Counter cash register, pardner. (And quickly check yer purse to confirm that Ken's genitals are still securely confined therein)

Those seated in their coffee shops beningly sipping away at their hot drinks safely removed from a war they never wanted any part of would therefore argue the points they have read in those dailies, points that were no doubt edited along the way by patriotic individuals who did not wish for Americans to see their own weak nation doing nothing whilst a brave nation like Great Britain fights for the world's freedom. SaintLucifer The Dark Saint

Please.....stop.....my ribs......:roflmao:

First of all, there WERE no "coffee shops" in America, as far as I'm aware, during WWII.......except maybe in NY or LA, but I doubt it.

Lots of diners, though, so let's substitute diner, though its a minor point--but one that demonstrates a slight degree of ignorance, even before you get to your point......that no Americans (or is it only my family?).were fighting in England before Pearl Harbor.

Really?

Of course that only means that they were shooting down Brits and Canucks for a longer period, eh?

It is to laugh.

FYI, the first American pilot to die defending England in WWII, passed away from burns recieved when his hurricane crash-landed after a battle with Kraut dive bombers (probably the JU87 Stuka) on Aug 18, 1940. How is it now, that you can say with absolute certainty, that he was not my ancestor? You are aware of the true meaning of "absolute", yes? Tell the truth now.....you can't even say with any certainty that I am not a truculent Geordie, sitting in an internet cafe in downtown Newcastle at this very moment......can you?

Let's play "friendly-fire trivia", shall we?

What case of friendly fire in WWII killed nearly as many Americans as have been killed in Iraq, including the post-war insurrection by members of the "religion of peace"?

Was it avoidable? If you think so, why?

According to the site with the answer to that question, the ground casualties from FF in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were at around 2%, and about 17% during the Gulf War, where preparations were hasty and disparate uniforms plentiful........not to mention the improved kill rates of modern weapons.

A lot of the FF episodes in WWII involved firing upon unmarked ships or trains filled with Allied POW's, instead of war materials that needed to be attacked. Who is to blame for that, the bad 'ol Americans?

And not to put the shoe on the other foot, but it would appear that your vaunted British Bomber Command were as good at killing civilians as the Americans are accused of being, oui?

But, I reckon we are allies, whether we like it or not, so it might be wise to put aside the petty bickering for the time being.

You can always hope for a future war, I suppose, if you're that determined to find out if we can still kick your pansie asses around a battlefield, as Patton left Monty in the dust at Sicily, and again at the breakout of Normandy to the Rhine. And I have it on good authority that units of the Texas National Guard's 36th Infantry Division were accross the Rhine and 50 miles into Germany, through the Southern France Invasion of Jul '44, before either the Russians OR Patton.

Eisenhower called them back to reinforce Patton, even though they had found the German defensive positions stocked with ammo and supplies......and deserted.

That decision might be responisble for the deaths of up to 40,000 allied troops, because an attack through the south could very possibly have surrounded and defeated the Nazi Panzer divisions, thereby preventing the Battle of the Bulge.

Tell me again how much you know about this conflict?

For some reason beyond my meagre capacity of observation, I must have missed the evidence of it. Sorry, but I suppose you could attribute my shortcoming to the mundane, pitiful little mind with which a cruel and dastardly fate has encumbered me---to my great disappointment and everlasting shame.

I thank you for your indulgence of my handicap.