[Morgan_Freeman]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel So you believe they are mindless because? Why? Because they dont speak American English? Your arrogance is showing.

If asserting that fish are mindless counts as "arrogance", then I'm proud to be called arrogant.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel You may not have noticed our herding and flocking is a bit looser, but we to tend to connect with our own kind.

"Connecting" with other humans is not even vaguely analogous to "herding" or "flocking". This is absurd. Maybe you flock, I don't know, but speak for yourself man.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel The Iraq war: The dems were provided fixed/rigged intelligence. John Conyers said "If you were given the intelligence that we were given, you would have voted for the war too "

Horseshit. They accepted that intellegence gladly and wholeheartedly, without an ounce of criticism.

"But how could we have ever known that the president would try to dupe us???!!!"
say the senators, sucking their thumbs and holding their comfort blankets.

Answer: Cut the crap. You knew it was a scam all along, or didn't care. No one in the halls of Congress is that naive. If they are, then they don't belong there.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel They did not have subpoena powers (being the minority. They had to use what they were given, and just blindly trust that it was true)

Care to elaborate on this? For what possible reason would someone have to "just trust what they were given"?

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel The Patriot Act: Was signed without being read the first time, this last week it was signed by Dems only after some revisions were made

I rest my case.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel . When the act was 1st passed it was under threat of death. The only targets for anthrax letters , were those who spoke out against the act.

Even if this far-fetched scenario is true, it hardly constitutes an excuse to vote in favor of the Act. What are you saying, that our legislators are just a bunch of scared puppets, who are doing whatever they can to avoid being killed? Absurd. It's the fucking UNITED STATES CONGRESS. If they aren't MAN enough to do their damn job, I say they resign and let someone in who can.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Also they had no subpoena powers and could not assemble to debate the act due to the bullshit expediency required.

I have no idea what you mean by this. Explain.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel They didnt have time to physically read the damned thing.

What a crock of shit. If a legislator hasn't read the bill being voted on, he has no business voting for it! You're talking about these people, the highest legislators in the land, like they're a bunch of kindergarteners!

(If only that were true -- instead they're a bunch of corrupt liars)

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel The urgency of 911 (dubious imho) demanded swift passage.

Clear nonsense. What urgency? The thing had already happened. The perps were all dead.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I dont like defending them. They should have stood up for what is right.

Then why are you defending them???

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel But the Anthrax attacks on Daschle and Leahy, DID influence the voting on the Patriot Act, equal to the Reichstag Fire influencing the vote for the 1933 Enabling Law in Nazi Germany.

So you're comparing the US Congress to a bunch of corrupt, incompetent Germans in the Nazi era?

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel The Anthrax attacks were against another enemy of the bush administration.

Oh brother. I guess it's never occured to you that these attacks could have been fakes, planted by congressional Democrats in order to provide an excuse for them voting for the PATRIOT Act.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Splinter groups are cute, but we are talking Mass Murder here. Grow a brain, rise up as one against the Tyrant we know.

Talk is cute. I say they're ALL tyrants, and Bush just happens to be the one in power.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Ron Paul has an (R) after his name. And hes a Libertarian? So Are Libertarians more Reich than Left? Now, I doubt I will ever be a Libertarian.

Because libertarians sometimes run as Republicans? Now THAT's divisive partisan nonsense. You should be ashamed of yourself.