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Quote by: Kuldeep You say "the universe is not a property, nor itself a medium of existence, but instead an environment"; while your body is a property of yourself. This means your various internal organs stationed inside the cantor of your body is not your environment, but is property and medium!!! I was surprised to read from an intellect like you that ''Universe is not a medium of existence". Please do not confuse your ownself with magic of vocabulary. Environment contain medium and both have properties----mixing words won't prove or disprove facts or the reality!!!!! |
If you really want me to be specific, fine, I will be. Twisting what I meant in an attempted full circle won't help you. The universe contains life, an environment. Your organs are an attachment to life, part of the digestive, endocrine, and cardiac systems; the leader of these systems is the brain, which uses neurons to communicate movements and sensation between cells.
The universe is not a system of life. That's like saying we're in its stomach, or that our stomachs are just as "alive" as we are. There is no communication, no thought pattern, no repetitive motions because of intellect and celluar cooperation that constitute life inside a VACUUM! The universe is chaos. Our abilities to find "beauty" among this chaos is our own humanistic doing, not that of the universe. It doesn't intend for nebulaes to be beautiful. There is no intention, no emotion, no breathing, no sign of life. Did you really think the universe was alive?
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Quote by: Kuldeep I would not change my feeling presently. Rather, please have patience and re-think once more what I have said. I would also help you as folllows:
Your all physical materilist systems right up to DNA, RNA, Genes, Chromzomes are run by some unknown force (YOU). The joint physical system in gross form are your inner organs and in more grosser form are outer body parts. After your death that force (YOU) seize to exist (as you think, I do not), the body decays due to certain other nature's properties. Same way millions and millions of stars are like DNA, RNA, Genes, chromzomes are run by some unknown force (SOMETHING), which people call God). Both YOU & GOD are unknown to common man till now. But then YOU exist everywhere in your body while SOMETHING exist in whole Universe. I do not problem anywhere. One should have an intention to solve the problem, but to creat one using word game!!!! |
Unknown force? What is this, science fiction class? Your DNA is a code, something your cells work off of. It was given to you during conception, and this code began creating your cells using cell division by this code. Even with an imagination like yours, I don't see the need for compulsive ignorance of modern science. If "YOU" were the force, then you would be controlling billions and billions of cells in your head, which we all know your body wouldn't be able to handle the costant neuron movement and your body would probably shut down or something. Oh yeah, and the fact that you actually call your little creation "something" is simply priceless. You're saying, without evidence of course, that the universe is alive as a person and its a something. Like what the hell?
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Quote by: Kuldeep Your scientists only have proved that the Universe is exanding with a positive acceceleration, thus I would say (SOMETHING) also make up other "things" and lifeforms. :eek:
Your argument is rather with prejudice mind. First you questioned existence of God, now you stress on life of God. Have you not heard Live forest and Dead forest????? :confused:
Please accept a simple answer to your complicated question!!! Rather I am seeing you are trying to find complicated answer to a simple question. :(
Poor Jesus & God both have to wait yet to get the turn. :) |
For one, your first sentence contains a cause and effect, yet both ideas have no correlation with one another. The expanding universe, does not also tell us the universe's composition, other than the fact that we know it's a vacuum, which for some reason you seem to enjoy calling a something, when it is really just an absence of everything as far as we know.
I question the existence of God and every other supernatural thing every made by the human mind. That means, in its essence, that I technically reject millions of made up deities because of different viewpoints of a creator ever made by man, then I reject the thousands of branches of beliefs that stem from them. You accept God's supernatural capabilities, yet, from what I gather, reject any other capabilities of a deity's existence, since only one can exist (one meaning religion). So that's really a lot like me, since that would also be rejecting millions of religions and stems. Basically, your accusation of me being prejudice is like saying a man with 1,000,000 dollars is definitely more rich than a man with 999,999 dollars, since they're finances, like our rejections of beliefs, are so much alike.
And couldn't I say that you are prejudiced for accepting the belief of God? Prejudice is an opinion, so throwing that in a heated, detailed, scientific vs. supernatural discussion seems redundant. Also, I never stressed on "life of God," whatever that means. I'm only talking about the inexistence of life of God and your childish theories that you've created in its wake.
I am a very reasonable person. If the answer were simple I would not have responded to your initial post with so many rejections and questions on everything you've put in them. There are so many certainties in science that you just love to ignore. Please don't be so ignorant.