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Isherwood
...sins which the god that killed itself made possible in the first place. Yup, it's a story that really holds together.
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The only way to guarantee that people wouldn't sin is to deprive them of freedom. Is this what you would expect from a loving God?
He gave us example of supreme love and self-sacrifice, yet He didn't interfere with our freedom.
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grandpa
Yeah, that's what I've never understood. God should just skip all this life stuff and place us all in heaven right away. Otherwise it is simply a pointless, wasteful exercise to see who will u etheir free will for "sin." That many will use their free will in such a way and disbelive in God is obvious.
Grandpa h.
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He doesn't need all of us. He only wants those who love Him willingly. Christianity is not recruitment of as many as possible, but selection of worthy.
Obviously most people would misuse their freedom this is expected.
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SoccerfreakAB2
The best part is you can be a complete ass your whole life, all 80 years of your life for example, then at the last minute forgive your sins, and pow! heaven you go. Yet there are so many good atheists, muslims, and buddhists who are told by Christians that they will go to hell for not believing. It's a big joke.
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You cannot fool God. In order to be forgiven one must wholeheartly repent. If one lived 80 years in sin, the sin would become part of his personality and he wouldn't be able to repent as he should.
As for atheists, muslims, budhists etc. I don't know their fate it is ut to God to judge them. Yet, I am not optimistic at all. Not all Christians will be saved, what hope have those who oppose Christ?
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rez
no the point is how retarded the whole process is. Why do all religions require some kind of sacrafice to happen to appease some type of supreme entity
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Because people who are saved become God's friends. He expects them to pass certain tests in order to deserve this.