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Quote by: SoccerfreakAB2 How are there three things that are the same? Are they the same entities? Why have you avoided my barage of questions from the previous post? |
to answer them in a logical sense
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Once again, because I realize this is dthmstr254, care to give any evidence to this? Let's try avoiding those hardcore Christian sites, because I know how much you love them. They always seem to go in your favor...
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well, I doubt that David G Myer's
Exploring Psychology would be a Christian source at all. Myers is an expert in psychology, making him a fully acceptable source for this. to cite a biology source, I cite Ricki Lewis's
Life chapter 31, which deals with the Nervous System.
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But really, quite an imaginative belief. Sounds like it came from a third grader though. This is the 21st century. We know the mind comes from the brain. And yes, we can look at the brain and say these bundles of fibers cause specific thought patterns and body movements. It's not that hard. The problem is finding specific enough movements and thoughts for experiementation and for health advancement.
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specific MEMORIES, not cognition, not emotion, shoot, logical thought tends to cause the supposed machines they are supposed to see the action in the brain say the entire brain is going crazy, plus they can only see the actions of the white matter, which is sending action potentials everywhere like crazy anyways, and at speeds highest in the brain, because of the myelin sheaths speeding up the movement.
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And these conversations, the ones you give no evidence of, explain them more. Was it just voices in the hallways no one could explain? Was it the voice of the "dead" person. And how "dead" is the person? And if there are random voices in the hallways, usually given to the placement of ghosts (no, I don't want your opinion on ghosts), how many people were there to hear the voices? Probably one or two.
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actually, they were in patients' rooms "down the hall". these rooms are closed when the doctor is giving the diagnosis. the people had no connection to the ones with memories of their problems after revival. the deadness of the person was to the point that the brain had shut down to below 5% activity (approximately ten minutes). they even decided to have a control mechanism and bring in someone from another country to have a conversation down the hall on Marfan's Syndrome (a rare type of heart disease which causes irregular heartbeat, mitral valve prolapse, weakening of the heart muscle, and eventually death. otuward symptoms include having an armspan longer than your height, underweight, and, for some odd reason, big feet and fingers.). of the persons who had participated in the study, 25% of the people recalled the height and armspan of the person mentioned, 34% said that Marfan's syndrome was being spoken of, 10% recalled which room it was in, and 50% said that heart disease was being spoken of (mind, the numbers overlap). someone tell me, how did they come by this information?
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And anyways, "gyne"cology is the study of female reproductive organs, not the entire female, which is what "gyne" refers to in Greek. Like Psychology, "Psych" now refers more to mind, rather than soul, since no one knows what the soul is, and it's anybodys imaginative guess as to what a soul could look like. That's why it's safe to say they don't exist.
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and notice that the psychology books I have, many secular psychology journals, and most psychologists still hold to the traditional definition being SOUL, not MIND. so you are saying that emotions don't exist? the mind is logic. mind games deal with logic. almost every time you see mind referred to, it is dealing with logic.
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So you're saying that whenever someone, Old or New Testament, saw God, they saw Jesus? So Jesus controls the body, like movements and stuff through his brain or something, while God is just a lifeless electric attachment in his neurons that surround thought capabilities? I think you need to go back to psychology class or realize that this figment of so many imaginations is totally screwed up psychologically. Maybe this explains the bi-polar attitudes in the New and Old testament...
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oh, you really screwed up what I said. I said to TAKE IT ON A LARGER SCALE. reread and notice that I was taking it to the larger scale by saying that Jesus is the physical manifestation of God, while God is omnipresent (everywhere).
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It's really not that hard of a question. You just tend to realize your possible errors and so cloud them in possible errored examples and errored anaylsis. For example, you could have just flat out told me your position: God is a trichometry, like a human, because Jesus is the body, God is the mind that is a separate entity, like a human, and the Holy Spirit is the spirit that can't be found anywhere in the body but is the body. I mean, that sounds like me recanting what I learned from CCD class when I was young and thoughtless. No one knew what the hell they were talking about until our teachers and parents kept drilling it into their minds, even though the jumble didn't make sense.
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and if you ever listened to what I said, you would know that you might have well just thrown my paragraph into a blender to pull what you pulled out.
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No, it's not. If I wanted a fairy tale response, I'd ask a more creative theist. You analysis fits no where in modern psychology with your basis of a separate mind, and you have absolutely no proof or evidence of a soul, nor have you given it a substance, a mass, or volume, or even thought pattern to which it is fixed, that could even come close to justifying your claim of spiritual existence. A fairy tale. The end.
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it fits in well with David G Myers. he has his psychology books in many colleges across the US and Europe. game set and match. this is over unless you can actually pull up some psychological journals from someone who denies that Dr Myers is a credible psychologist.