View Single Post
Old Jan 4, 2006, 09:41 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready
Principled Observer
 
Osborn F Enready's Avatar
 
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 13,873
Isbskins said:
That was the point. I mean, I just would like those who believe that government regulation is a great evil to give me a viable alternative. How does the market correct for this?

I say:
In a free market? The market would have never let it get so far out of hand. Companies like this get out of hand because they have long ago swallowed or merged with any real competitors, thanks to our abuse of our laws that goes unquestioned, unchallenged, and uninvestigated.

This is NOT capitalism in a free market dude. This is a market that is regularly affected by global sanctions of one type or another, by one nation or another, mostly our own though. This market is affected by tons of false information and false agitators.(like war) The numbers are manipulated at every facet, from state to federal. Just arriving at a TRUE number is a problem these days, since both major parties claim different sets of numbers, and they are both fuged in their own favor.

A free market put in place today, without any regulation would be a critical mistake if the monopolies weren't broken up, and the Constitution wasn't in place as written at ratification at the minimum. I obviosuly am against slavery and unequal rights for women also, so that would have to stay too since we should by now all understand the fallacy of slavery whether based on skin or sex. I am not an anarchist, I am closest to a libertarian, and they are not anarchists either.

Libertarians are not anti-regulation, they are for regulation as DEFINED in the contract that GRANTS government power at the PERMISSION of the people, through CONTRACT.

Isbskins said:
They don't believe in Unions, so collective power exerted by the workers can't fix it.

I say:
Who doesn't believe in unions, and do you care to clarify which type of union?

Isbskins said:
They don't believe in government regulation, so voter outrage and demands for legislation and enforcement can't fix it.

I say:
You are being incredibly vague and sweeping, which of course means...... incorrect.

Isbskins said:
How do they fix it? Or, do they believe that the price you pay for a paycheck and black lung exposure is taking your chances that you will die underground. Just wondering?

I say:
Thanks to science we don't depend on our corporate leaders for health information anymore.

Do you have to read the warning on a Bic lighter to know that flame emits when stroked correctly, AS INTENDED?

Libertarians believe in free markets, where the market regulates itself, and business is made or broken on efficiency and public service. To be efficient, one must have at least content workers, if not happy. They also educate as opposed to dumbing down, since education prevents accidents. The place value on the good, and the cost of extracting it, as well as the service with which it rendered, all be default through supply and demand, and fair market competition.


Petition of Redress of Grievances:
http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm

Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks:
http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/


Osborn F. Enready
Osborn F Enready is offline   Reply With Quote