[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready I say: Now you just need to figure out how, and then drop the democratic party for their part in the sell-out of our laws, our nation, our corporations, and our future.

Is there a viable party that has a chance to oust the current crime syndicate? Should we send Urkel or PeeWee Herman to throw em out of the White House? (I dont know why I still capitalize the White House, it doesnt deserve the respect) I am neither Dem nor Rep, but to participate in California Primaries I believe you have to declare a party (Not sure).

I am in the middle. We need balance of power. I have unanswered questions about Libertarians, Like, what kind of stop-loss is going to prevent anarchy, when the volunteer militia doesnt feel like stopping the riots or looting Where its at, rather than defending their own family where their property line begins/ends. It would be interesting to see a real example of a Libertarian system. What happens to the poor and sick? Are they just extinguished? What if there is not enough voluntary help to go around? We could go backward into a third world nation.
In the REAL WORLD accidents happen and not everybody can afford health insurance or hospital bills. hardship like a traffic accident or a fire at home or unemployment or any hardship by a family member can drain any savings (remember those days? I dont) we may have. It happens to EVERYONE, but only the blue bloods that are hoarding more money than they could use in ten lifetimes can survive hardship. I believe we should have programs that help those who cant help themselves. Libertarians must feel verrrrry lucky. That it wont ever happen to them. Libertarians are too far right when it comes to INFRASTRUCTURE. Check this from the "Defeat in 3 Minutes" website: “The Public Sector and Private Fortunes”.

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Modern Democrats need to understand they are supporting socialism, as well as modern republicans need to understand they are supporting fascism.

I agree, I am convinced that Fascism is also defined as Corporatism, but you have to admit the Dems dont really have much power lately. They are a small voice in the wilderness. They dont have many rights, like to subpoena and such. They have been given bogus intelligence and forced to pass bills without given time to even read them. I dont want to unjustly defend them, but they were led (forced) to believe (terrorized with anthrax!!) the urgency of passing those bills and acts.

Quote by: Osborn F Enready One evil is not better than the other.

I disagree, the evil we know, could be MUCH worse than the evil we dont know.

Quote by: Capitalist Pig My figure for the average wage paid to full-time employees came from WalMartFacts.com. It says, "Our average hourly wage for regular full-time associates in the U.S. is $9.68 an hour, almost double the federal minimum wage.

That right there is just plain CRIMINAL. It is a JOKE! You have to include full time AND part time, or you/they are being deceptive (if not out right lying), you also have to look at how much they pay illegal immigrants who are working the night shift, (and get locked inside so they wont pilfer) The majority of the work force is NOT full time. This is so the corporation can bend as many working stiffs over a barrel, keep him out of the loop of benefits like healthcare insurance and a pension and overtime and etc... (that only the rich should benefit from, right?)

Quote by: Capitalist Pig The only way to do that would be to sever all ties between government and economy.

You mean sever the whole current admin? That would be a good start. I believe the common man deserves a little respect. A little protection from what we know will happen again if not provided by government, outright slavery. You know good and welll, this would happen if corporations were not regulated at all. We would be back to robber barons and sweat shops in no time.
I would like to reserve the right to come back and reply to more of your post later. For now could you glance at this link that I found on the bottom of the page of 3 Minute Defeat: “The Public Sector and Private Fortunes”.