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shunyadragon · Mar 27, 2004, 09:03 pm

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (dave654,)
Hey Shunny

We may have a difference of opinion on what is considered "early." Christ's teachings spread quickly to Rome with Peter preaching in the city. The Empire was not officially Christian until Justinian in I believer the 3d century (don't quote me on that.) The cross was not the Chi/Rho symbol, that's the PX, written on top of each other that most people thinks meands PAX or peace. It is deffinitely a Grecco-Roman symbol. The cross was in use prior to the Christianity becoming the Empire's state religion. Justinian was said to have seen a cross in the sky and understand that with this symbol he would be victorious in some battle. He had his troops paint a cross on their shields and proceeded to win the battle. Afterwards he converted and changed the Empire's religion. What probably really happened is that Christianity had grown so popular in the Empire that Justinian was simply accepting the new reality.
Artimis and Mithra. It is difficult to find the exact roots of all these ancient deities. I believe the cult of Artimis originated farther East than Sumaria, maybe even East of Persia. Artimis was worshiped by many different names and was called Diane by the Romans. There was most likely a merging of Mithrism and Artimis and possibly a few other mother goddess cults as well.
It's all pretty interesting isn't it?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

I believe that Artimis, Mithrism, and Zorastrianism all have Persian and earlier Sumarian origins and they are related. Part of the spread of Christianity in Rome was due to the conversion of Mithrites, which was a popular religion in Rome at the time of Christianity and there is evidence they worshiped together in the early years.

I do not think we are that much in disagreement on the time and origin of the cross in Christianity. I do not consider the cross to originate in the early Christianity of the Holy Lands.

Mar 27, 2004, 09:03 pm	#64 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (dave654,) Hey Shunny We may have a difference of opinion on what is considered "early." Christ's teachings spread quickly to Rome with Peter preaching in the city. The Empire was not officially Christian until Justinian in I believer the 3d century (don't quote me on that.) The cross was not the Chi/Rho symbol, that's the PX, written on top of each other that most people thinks meands PAX or peace. It is deffinitely a Grecco-Roman symbol. The cross was in use prior to the Christianity becoming the Empire's state religion. Justinian was said to have seen a cross in the sky and understand that with this symbol he would be victorious in some battle. He had his troops paint a cross on their shields and proceeded to win the battle. Afterwards he converted and changed the Empire's religion. What probably really happened is that Christianity had grown so popular in the Empire that Justinian was simply accepting the new reality. Artimis and Mithra. It is difficult to find the exact roots of all these ancient deities. I believe the cult of Artimis originated farther East than Sumaria, maybe even East of Persia. Artimis was worshiped by many different names and was called Diane by the Romans. There was most likely a merging of Mithrism and Artimis and possibly a few other mother goddess cults as well. It's all pretty interesting isn't it?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I believe that Artimis, Mithrism, and Zorastrianism all have Persian and earlier Sumarian origins and they are related. Part of the spread of Christianity in Rome was due to the conversion of Mithrites, which was a popular religion in Rome at the time of Christianity and there is evidence they worshiped together in the early years. I do not think we are that much in disagreement on the time and origin of the cross in Christianity. I do not consider the cross to originate in the early Christianity of the Holy Lands. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .