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Old Nov 12, 2005, 08:06 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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You mean: the French have always done what they deem to be in their interest.

If you think the French are in the habit of "ignoring" problems generated by Islamism, how do you explain the energy with which, over the past 10 years, they've been deporting non-French nationals preaching the stuff and taking off the streets French nationals they find dangerous?

I've been greatly amused by the breadth of the French-are-this and French-are-that remarks made on this board the past few days.
grandpa mentioned this, but the headscarves ban was a very symbolic example of how the french have ignored problems with their muslim cummunities.. or, maybe ignore is the wrong word, but the french certainly seem anxious about these foreign people.. if they didn't, they wouldn't move to ban headscarves, and they would do more to integrate them into the country - rather than huddle them in ethnic ghettos.. of course, if they were to empower them, that could pose political problems - and, how many french really want these people in their country? (re: le penn)

it seems that the french initially assumed that these people would fit right in, and now it's clear that they didn't have much of a plan to help these people fit in.. or, these immigrant's culture is the antithesis of french culture. - and if that's the case it's amazing that they didn't foresee this happening.


and as far as jobs go... unemployment in france is chronically high regardless of ethnicity. yes, unemployement amongst the established communities isn't as high (almost half that of muslim communities) - but it's still damn high regardless. and it's been high for quite a long time. i don't disagree that there's an economic factor to this issue, but there are other pieces (like the french government "ignoring" the issue of assimilation/naturalization) that are also relevant.


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