[Zeebadee]

Quote by: mathurin so your giving them a pass since they hid behind wordplay, they handed bush a loaded pistol, and now that the political wind has changed they can hide behind "but we only voted to let him"

I agree. I think that if we go to war, Congress should live up to their responsibilities and openly vote for it. That they didn't do, so I don't understand how it can be claimed that congress voted to go to war.

Quote by: mathurin do you remember why we pulled the inspectors out? cause saddam was yanking us around, doing nothing but stalling

Then perhaps you could provide some evidence of any site that the inspectors were not allowed to go to? saddam said he didn't have WMD's, is it stalling when he can't show what he did with something he didn't have?

Quote by: mathurin and havent you heard about the trucks rolling over the border? or do you think they were carrying milk

No, I haven't heard about them, could you provide some proof of that claim? And exactly how would you move "thousands of tons" of WMD's in a few trucks anyway? Read Bush's speech (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0021007-8.html), can you find any facts in it at all?

Quote by: mathurin we spent months getting support, you dont think that in that wasteland of a country they could be properly hidden so they wont be found

Well, we've had several years now to find them, isn't it reasonable to expect to have some concrete evidence of them by now?

Quote by: mathurin all of this is irrelevant however since it doesnt pertain to the here and now of leaving, doesnt matter how or why we got there, what matters is that we have a chance to bring democracy to the middle east, in time the iraqis will experience freedoms they never though of, and the idea will spread

Sorry, but I don't think it's my responsibility to "bring democracy to the middle east". If they want it, they can get it themselves, like the people of Romania did. If you want it for them, then YOU go over and fight for it, using YOUR money.

Quote by: mathurin the past we cannot change, and we can complain about it with our 20/20 hindsight, but it wont change squat, and merely serves as a tool to divide the country more

It's not me that's dividing the country, it's the doofus in Washington that's doing that with his asinine war.

Quote by: mathurin yes i pay taxes, its interesting you call me college boy as an insult, since in general the colleges are full of liberals of the anti-war position, which im sure you refer to in much different ways, in fact my going to college will allow me to pay more taxes i dont mind spending money on something like this, because the stop-gap measures we have employed in the past havent worked worth a crap, sometimes direct action must be taken

I didn't call you anything, least of all college boy. And it seems to me that the "stop-gap measures" we had been emplying were working pretty good. saddam couldn't even mount the least defense of his country, they had no WMD's, and they had no way to deliver any of them even if they had.