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Old Oct 27, 2005, 11:47 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
Son of Belial
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I read that, Son of Belial, but forgot. OK, that would make a decent motive. But as a means to that end, wasn't 9/11 a bit over the top? It's like blowing up your house to get rid of the cockroaches. Certainly the government has more subtitle ways to enact restrictions on our liberties than that. Convincing the public that we needed to defend ourselves against outside threats by becoming a de facto police state could have been achieved without so many American deaths and the destruction of those buildings. Further, this would have had to be planned by minds far more complex than Bush's. True deviousness requires intelligence, something he and his cronies are in short supply of.
How much damage did the Reichstag fire do? Serious question, I'm not sure the extent of it personally.

In any event, there are a few things to consider:

1) The bigger the disaster, the quicker people will hand over their liberties. Again, as in Nazi Germany, people's liberties aren't stolen. They hand them over. They exchange them for "protection," "security," etc. Which, in general, they don't actually recieve.

2) One of the goals here is to unite people. A massive "attack" like this achieved something very important - people began waving flags and acting like patriots again. The government needed that. They need people who will blindly follow them, thinking "patriotism" is synonymous with doing whatever they say unquestioningly, when patriotism, by our Constitution, is the opposite.

3) We're given a common enemy, the Moslems. Now, we know not all Moslems are militant terrorists, but this gives us the excuse to invade other countries - and let's be honest, war, in the long run, can be good for the economy, especially if we get oil out of it - and an enemy to blame things on, ala 1984.

4) I never believed for a second Bush was behind it. From the dumbfounded look on his face when he heard of the attack while he was reading bedtime stories to the kids, I'd wager that he might not have known exactly what was happening. I've seen some evidence that he did - or at least, that he knew something was going to happen - but he's hardly the mastermind behind it. Considering the original attempted attack on the WTC happened before he was in office, along with Oklahoma City, etc, Bush is not a mastermind behind anything, just a pawn from the ranks of the Skull and Bones.
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