[Mindonfire]

Quote by: Sonart Since you can't be bothered to respond on the same damn 'Whose Compassion' thread that you started, I'll simply have to follow you here and paste up my last post... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --"Well... now that our benefactor, after a suitable amount of time, with a patient nod here and correction there to make sure his scenerio is appropriately defined to suit his lesson, has consented to share >>The Truth<<, let's return the favor with a question of our own. Exactly what is the difference between Mindonfire's compassionate non-enabler and someone who refuses to help simply because he doesn't give a rip and doesn't want to part with his cash? None that I can see. In fact, the way I see it, Mindonfire has given himself a free pass never to give money to anyone in need if he doesn't feel like it, all with a clear conscience. Now of course, Mindon has set up his fiction for maximum permission to be judgemental. The guy's not simply a panhandler, he's a drug addict!. OOoooOooo. And we know this, of course, because Mindon made a point that our compassionate non-enabler "talked to him for a few minutes", knowing that addicts invariably share their addictions with anyone that asks. And, of course, the final condemnation on anyone thinking that simply helping someone in need is compassionate, the addict promptly OD's and dies, the ultimate vindication for the compassionate non-enabler. Thus armed with a worst case scenerio, how can Mindonfire go wrong? So what if the guy wasn't a... OOoooOOOooo ...drug addict. Maybe just an alcohalic. Or mentally ill. Or medically disabled. Down on their luck. Whatever the cause, surely there's some vice that help will simply enable... they'll just buy more booze. They're dangerous. They're lazy. They should have worked harder in school. Compassion is not about judging people, Mindonfire. This is the same attitude that's made such a mess of our 'War on Drugs'. Addicts are victims, not criminals. You can either help them, without judgement, or not help them, and simply walk away. But don't think you can salve your conscience by rationalizing that walking away is actually compassion."-- .

First of all no cursing please. It have not cursed you so please do not curse me.

Secondly the issue is not about “never to give money to anyone in need if he doesn't feel like it, all with a clear conscience.” The issue is about making wise judgments.

Thirdly An addict is not in need of money. He or she is in need of treatment. So does an alcoholic and so does a mentally ill individual. A person that is an upstanding productive citizen that has fallen on hard times may be in need of money. So you need to be able to judge correctly so that you can see what an individual really needs.

Fourthly I don’t know what world you live in but this is not fiction. This “worst case scenario” happens everyday. Maybe you need to get out more.

Fifthly you are right when you state that addicts are victims. The problem is that they are victims of their own actions. You are wrong when you state that they are not criminals. They are criminals. Here is the definition of Criminal just in case you might have forgotten and also the definition of Crime.


Criminal (noun)1 : one who has committed a crime 2 : a person who has been convicted of a crime

Crime: 1 : an act or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law and that makes the offender liable to punishment by that law; especially : a gross violation of law 2 : a grave offense especially against morality
3 : criminal activity *efforts to fight crime* 4 : something reprehensible, foolish, or disgraceful *it's a crime to waste good food*
synonyms see OFFENSE