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Quote by: lsbskins1 Starboy-
You keep trying to reduce this to an either/or proposition and that is exactally what I am saying it is not and should not be. Of course logic or logos informs opinions on spirituality or mythos. Being humans, we can not lock it out of the equation. That is 1/2 of my point. The other 1/2, of course, is that mythos can not be dismissed from the equation either. You seem to want to insist that man must accept a state of being that denies an essential aspect of his make-up. |
I didn't think I was doing that. I thought I was trying to clarify what your position was. You claim that there are two things that must be considered that you call "Mythos" and "Logos". By doing this you are saying that they are not the same. That they are different. Your original post spoke of questions so I then asked how does "Mythos" and "Logos" apply to a distinction in questions. You came back with it not being about the questions it is about the answers. I said fine, what is the distinction in the answers and now you are saying that there is no distinction in the answers and made some allusion to emotionally satisfying answers verses rational answers. Then we have come to this. You should be thanking me. I have forced you to think throught what the hell you have been trying to say.
Then I suggested that one does not have to separate mythos from logos. That the percieved tension between the two things had nothing to do with mythos and logos and everything to do with what persumptions you were forcing your answers into. That it was possible to discard such presumptions and adopt answers and ways of answering things that allowed mythos and logos to exist with little or no tension.
But hey, it is your thread. I do not claim to understand what you mean by mythos or logos and you are not doing a very good job of making yourself clear.
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That is what brings you into constant conflict with those who accept the place of mythos in their lives. In another thread, you accuse anyone who does not reject the "Christian" label of being just as guilty of any wrong committed by a "bad" Christian. That seems to be a sacrifice of logic on the alter of "logos". It's just as illogical as being willing to kill an abortion doctor because he does not respect the sanctity of life. Not as morally reprehensible, but just as illogical. There are plenty of people who do not reject everything supernatural who have plenty of room in their lives for logic. Do not reduce this question to a choice between logic and spirituality. That is a false dichotomy. It is a question of arriving at the proper ballance. It is a question of respect for the practical reality of dealing with man as he is and not as you wish he was.
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You are jumping to a lot of conclusions. I simply suggested that one could remove the conflict between mythos and logos by rejecting presumptions that caused the conflict.
But this response of yours if very telling. For you mythos is not some answer that appeals to the emotions but a specific answer that appeals to your particular emotions. Yet even you in your posts admit that your mythos conflicts with your logos. Sorry, it is your problem. Just trying to help out. Rather than trying to justify the conflict you could just fix the dang problem. Discard the presumption that is causing all the conflict in the first place.
Starboy